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I'm so sorry to read about this. If it helps at all, I think you look beautiful and your smile still looks great! Yes, a little different from before, but certainly a great smile. I'm so sorry you are so upset! :( thank you for the reply and for your kindess! :) The latest pics where you can see my...

Not trying to be the devils advocate, but it looks like the height of your gum in your current picture and your graduation picture are about the same? I would suggest going to another orthodontist to get a second opinion and bring all your records (if you haven't already). Maybe having another opin...

Mine used to show 12-14 across the top on an easily achieved big smile. Post Damon braces, it shows 10 and I really have to strain my muscles to barely show 12. The archform widened to a horseshoe shape which now postures the front teeth towards the front of the mouth, obscuring the back ones a bit

So, today I went back to ortho to talk about things. We talked and when I mentioned TADs he said he wouldnt mind doing that and he would do whatever to make me happy. That was a huge relief! But before we do TADs he wants me to do laser gum contouring to reveal some more of my teeth and to see a jaw...

Do you think any of the lip strain is because of the brackets? I have some lip strain with my braces, but I definitely think it's partially because I have a small mouth and they take up so much space. I asked my ortho and he said the same thing. I can tell though that my strain has improved over th...

Thank you, lovespain5! I really appreciate the tip and well thoughts!

Anyone have any experience with upper teeth intrusion to fix lip incompetence? I have seen it be used to correct gumminess, by means of TADs (https://www.orthodontisteenligne.com/en/blog/19364/) but im wondering if: A- it could also correct lip incompetence B- how it would affect ones appearance C- ...

Boy, do i have lip incompetence?! The bummer is that mine got much worse with braces. I sought ortho treatment to fix minor lip incompetence and gumminess in my smile. But now, after 3 years of braces, i have a really bad case of both. Keep talking to your ortho about this concern.

I feel my smile got narrower after 3 years with braces. But I did not have any extractions. What made my smile narrower was that the upper jaw is protrudent, so it pulls the lips forward and they dont have enough elasticity to stretch to sides as far as they used to. That makes sense. My lips are l...

I sought braces to fix minor lip incompetence and gummy smile. I have had Damon braces for 3 years now And now not only are they not fixed, but both issues have been exacerbated. My upper arch expanded and protruded disimproving my appearance. ortho says he cant do anything to improve either issue. ...

Probably you have been treated with Damon or other self-ligating braces? This type of braces used to push forward upper front teeth are not recommanded if you suffer from bimax protrusion and/or lip incompetence, which would become more severe. . Thank you. Yes, Damon. I had no idea they were contr...

I don't have any advice for you; I just wanted to voice my shock that your ortho is claiming not to see the things you are concerned about. Has he seen the pictures you posted? Thank you for yout reply. Yes! Not only hes seen it, his staff took them! Its outrageous, yeah? And to think i didnt even ...

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GUMMY SMILE So, I know my teeth werent straight, but I didnt care. I had a much more attractive smile shape. My full smile would show all the way to the back teeth! But now the changed shape of my upper arch, the teeth in the back no longer show. Plus my smile just seems narrower and I have that pia...

Finally posted enough to be able to attach images!
So, frontal images. Notice the little amount of chin strain on the before image and the exacerbation of the current