Does everyone get spacers?

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Orwellian
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Does everyone get spacers?

#1 Post by Orwellian »

I am getting braces ( NOT Damon) on march 4. That is 10 days away! I hear that spacers go in 14 days before, but I don't have any, and my molars are pretty squished.
Sentence:18 months
Full metal braces
Consultation: January 15, 2014
Bonding: March 4, 2014
1st adjustment: ?
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chichi
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#2 Post by chichi »

You only need spacers if you're getting molar bands. It's possible you'll be getting brackets instead, or you might just get bands later in treatment.
Had Damons (ceramic upper, metal lower) from June 27, 2013 - January 20, 2015
15-18 month sentence, official time in braces was 18 months, 3 weeks, 3 days
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kids041
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#3 Post by kids041 »

I do not have molar bands, only brackets on all teeth, so don't need the spacers.

JumpTheDitch
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#4 Post by JumpTheDitch »

This question comes up quite regularly. Spacers are usually used to prep the teeth that are going to be banded (usually molars, sometimes premolars if other appliances such as expanders, etc are to be used). It seems that many orthos tend to use brackets on the molars as opposed to bands. My ortho used bands on both my second and first molars when I first had braces, and my current dentist has used them pre-banding appliances also. Just going by the posts though, I seem to be in the minority. More people here seem to have brackets than bands; whether that's a reflection of demographics (I'm in Australia; many people here seem to be in the US, UK or other parts of Europe) or just a general move away from the brutality of bands (ok, they're not really that bad), I'm not sure. Just be thankful you have none. I currently have 8 as part of my ortho treatment :yuck: Counting the spacers I had for braces, expander, etc so far I've had 25 :soremouth: My current 8 get replaced every month, I'm wondering if I'm going to end up with some kind of world record, maybe I should contact the good people at Guinness Book of Records :roll:
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Orwellian
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#5 Post by Orwellian »

chichi wrote:You only need spacers if you're getting molar bands. It's possible you'll be getting brackets instead, or you might just get bands later in treatment.
My ortho always bands the molars. :FeelSick:
I know this because there is only one ortho in my city, and everyone who has braces in my city has molar bands. :yuck:
Sentence:18 months
Full metal braces
Consultation: January 15, 2014
Bonding: March 4, 2014
1st adjustment: ?
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#6 Post by metalat40 »

I had 8 spacers placed 2 weeks before braces (and braces were 3 1/2 weeks ago). Spacers were horrible. I have bands on 7 molars, but it should have been all 8. However, even with spacers (and extractions), one back molar was too tipped to get the band on. There was talk of a spring going on at some point there (not sure what that means), so I will find out at my first adjustment in late March. I'm in the US, my Ortho has been in practice for 25 years. I'm told he bands rather than brackets the molars as he gets better movement/adjustment of the molars themselves this way, thus preventing movement years down the road. My Ortho assistant had brackets the first time on her molars, and later had movement of her teeth. When she started working with this Ortho, he did braces again for her with bands. They say better results, but each Ortho is different.

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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#7 Post by sirwired »

Brackets have some trouble bonding with composite filling material (the acid etchant primer doesn't phase it, and the cement doesn't integrate with it like it does enamel; I don't know about amalgam fillings or porcelain crowns) so many orthos will band molars with fillings on the outer surface or crowns to prevent having to deal with bonding failure.

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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#8 Post by Orwellian »

metalat40 wrote:I had 8 spacers placed 2 weeks before braces (and braces were 3 1/2 weeks ago). Spacers were horrible. I have bands on 7 molars, but it should have been all 8. However, even with spacers (and extractions), one back molar was too tipped to get the band on. There was talk of a spring going on at some point there (not sure what that means), so I will find out at my first adjustment in late March. I'm in the US, my Ortho has been in practice for 25 years. I'm told he bands rather than brackets the molars as he gets better movement/adjustment of the molars themselves this way, thus preventing movement years down the road. My Ortho assistant had brackets the first time on her molars, and later had movement of her teeth. When she started working with this Ortho, he did braces again for her with bands. They say better results, but each Ortho is different.
A spring will make room for the tooth. (Some of my friends have springs) :tingrin:
Sentence:18 months
Full metal braces
Consultation: January 15, 2014
Bonding: March 4, 2014
1st adjustment: ?
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Re: Does everyone get spacers?

#9 Post by Gerib »

sirwired wrote:Brackets have some trouble bonding with composite filling material (the acid etchant primer doesn't phase it, and the cement doesn't integrate with it like it does enamel; I don't know about amalgam fillings or porcelain crowns) so many orthos will band molars with fillings on the outer surface or crowns to prevent having to deal with bonding failure.

I can tell you from experience that porcelain crowns do NOT play well with the bonding material. I lost mine last night, after only 6 days.
Geri

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