Phos-Flur and saltwater questions

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#1 Post by **genxsis** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:32 pm

I just have 2 quick questions about a couple things:

First, is saltwater supposed to help heal sensitive teeth when they're "on the move", or does it only help to heal irritated cheeks and toungues from the sharp edges of brackets and molar bands?

Second, what do you think of a flouride rinse called Phos Flur? My ortho recommends it, but it is so much more expensive than ACT, which is the flouride rinse I normally use. Is Phos Flur that much better, or am I just as well off continuing to use ACT?

#2 Post by **Flora2006** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:05 pm

Hi!

Rinsing with warm salt water will sooth and make your mouth feel better. Definitely rinse if you are having problems with irritation, cuts, etc...

As for the fluouride, ask your ortho if it's okay for you to keep continuing rinsing with what you were using before. But if he recommends the other one, than maybe its a better one? I can't really answer that one because I use Listerine's fluouride moutwash

#3 Post by **Leslie022** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:07 pm

Hi <b>genxsis</b>, I use Phos-Flur and I love it. Not only does it help prevent cavities but it also helps prevent the nasty, permanent white spots that sometimes develop on teeth. I don't know how ACT and Phos-Flur compare, however.

#4 Post by **LoobyLou** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:11 am

I'm glad I know this - the horrid wire poking out at the back of my brace has gouged the inside of my cheek raw!!

LoobyLou x

#5 Post by **genxsis** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:13 pm

Loobylou:

If I were you, I'd go back to the ortho and have him cut the wire for you. It only takes a second. You'll be glad you did!

And thank you everyone for the replies to my questions. I've been having problems with the cleats on my molar bands tearing up the back of my tongue. The problem comes and goes. It gets real bad, and I use saltwater. A couple days later, it's better. Then a week later, it happens again. I thought it would toughen up and stay toughened up, but that doesn't seem to be the case with me for some reason.

#6 Post by **trentb** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:13 pm

Hi. I had the same question, so did some research. The amount of Flouride in Phos Flur and ACT is nearly identical. The difference is that ACT contains alcohol and Phos Flur does not. I suspect the lack of alcohol is what makes Phos Flur more expensive.

Note: if you compare the ingredients, the amount of Flouride is expressed in different ways. Don't let that confuse you. When converted to the same units, the difference is negligible.

Cheers!!

#7 Post by **genxsis** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:21 pm

trentb:

That you for the info. abou ACT and Phos Flur! Now it sounds like I'll be going back to ACT and start saving money again!

I kind of wonder why dentists and orthos recommend the expensive stuff even when it is no better than what's more readily available and cheaper!?!? As for the alcohol content: what's so bad about alcohol if you don't even swallow it?

#8 Post by **cactus** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:03 pm

perhaps the concern is with the alcohol irritating the mouth

#9 Post by **cactus** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:03 pm

perhaps the concern is with the alcohol irritating the mouth

#10 Post by **genxsis** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:07 pm

I haven't had any irritation yet. I've used ACT at night for a long time, and I use Listerine in the morning. Sure, it stings some, but I always thought that meant it was "working".

#11 Post by **Dark_angel** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:13 pm

I believe the problem with alcohol is that it dries the inside of the mouth, meaning less saliva and therefore reduces protection for the teeth. When i use listerine it 'burns' a little too.

#12 Post by **genxsis** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:34 pm

DarkAngel:

You know what? I just checked the bottle of ACT (actually the Wal Mart store brand equivalent) and it says on the bottle "Alcohol free". So does that mean that it's really the same stuff as Phos Flur for only a small fraction of the price? I paid over $11 for Phos Flur and only $1.97 for the ACT store brand.

#13 Post by **MsMargo** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:28 pm

A bit late to the party, but...

ACT, PhosFlur, and most other over-the-counter floride rinses contain the same amount of flouride. Most are now also alchohol-free. The reason that PhosFlur is more expensive is a bit like why store brand asprin is less expensive than Bayer Enteric Coated asprin - it's the formulation + a name brand.

PhosFlur is a name brand marketed specifically for a niche market - us folks with braces. It also is formulated with acidulated phosphate flouride, which Colgate claims get the flouride into the enamal better. (And it theoretically should.)

Does it actually work better? None of the studies I found showed it worked any better, or any worse. The prevailing opinion is to use a flouride rinse, and use it regularly. Using it, or not using it, seems more important than the brand you use.

#14 Post by **jas_2008** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:32 pm

My ortho gave me samples of Phos Flur but also said I could use ACT ... so I think that means they do the same thing!

#15 Post by **genxsis** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:16 pm

Well, that does it for me! I'll go back to Act! Thank you for that info. It's going to save me alot of money and/or worry!

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