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hey jenny, thanks for the response. its really hard to take a pictures of my lowers, for some reason, my lips always cover my lower braces. ill try taking more tomorrow...but your comment really makes me wonder, do i have damon brackets on the bottom? the ortho really tried to talk me into getting damons on both top and bottom, and i said nah, i want ceramics. but i agreed to do metal on bottom, and they said to just go w/normal metal on bottom then...kinda confusing, but in the end, i didnt get damons at all. but, they had damons written on my contract/agreement, and i had to corrrect them later on and said i wasnt getting damons.....but it makes me wonder, did they mess up and put them on the bottom anyways? ill have to call monday and find out...im so curious now!jenny101101 wrote: Melissa...I was wondering about your question about ligs on your lowers so I went back and looked at your pics in your journal. It looks like you have silver or gray coloured ones on the bottom. I think, unless you have self-ligating brackets, you'd have ligs and/or powerchains. It's hard to see your lowers but I'm pretty sure you do have them.