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#16 Post by **ShySmile** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:01 pm

Hey everyone,

I am set to have 2 upper 2nd premolars removed. I dont want them to go!!

My question is how are you guys having your teeth straightened if you have no room? I really dont want to have to gaps in my mouth for months. My ortho seems to think there is no way round this.

I have quite bad crowding on upper teeth and minimal crowding on lowers. Can you get your teeth "shaved"???

#17 Post by **revontuli** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:40 pm

ShySmile, my ortho told me she will make my arch wider to make room for the teeth. Apparently the arch wire does this, but it's so strange to think that a mere wire can make my arch wider. :-/

#18 Post by **VA5** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:23 pm

revontuli wrote:Thanks, Noodle1, for the encouragement! This is the kind of testimonial I was hoping to hear.

VA5, I'm curious -- didn't your friend's palate get widened at all? That was what my ortho told me -- that we would try to widen my palate, to help make room. It seems so strange that an arch wire can provide that kind of force, but apparently it's a tenacious little thing! :-/

I don't know, maybe it did? But all I notice is that her mouth is really protruding. But since that was never her concern at all.. her concern was to just straighten her teeth, I guess it didn't bother her. Now since my main concern is my protrusion, I would have never gone her route.

I'm curious to know how many people have true widening of the palate as an adult. I know the arch can be rounded, however my understanding is the palate cannot really "widen" in the true sense. the arch can go from a rounded v shape, to a more rounded u shape, if that makes any sense. and in that way, it can look widened, b/c it is more rounded looking. So, it really depends on how much crowding you have, and how much space you have.

#19 Post by **fosterp** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:16 pm

Turning the arch from a narrow v shape to a wider U shape increases the overall arch length which allows crowding to be relieved.

#20 Post by **seriousthinker** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:36 pm

ShySmile wrote:Hey everyone,

I am set to have 2 upper 2nd premolars removed. I dont want them to go!!

My question is how are you guys having your teeth straightened if you have no room? I really dont want to have to gaps in my mouth for months. My ortho seems to think there is no way round this.

I have quite bad crowding on upper teeth and minimal crowding on lowers. Can you get your teeth "shaved"???

Yes, maybe. Today I was quoted for 'mild crowding' which I feel is worse but hey, I'm not an orthodontist. I have been told no extractio although when I was 12 extraction was a certain if I went ahead with braces. I'm not going to wear an expander but shaving may be something that my orthodontist looks into later on. 1/4mm from the side of each tooth.

Hope this helps.

ST