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Hi thanks Karen for those links, interesting, more info that i got from all the professionals thus far, but then that is the good old NHS in the uk,( i can say that im a former employee), and a persevering patient, 
still feeling a little down, as to how life with braces will be, but trying to be positive Hi to Lisa in Hampshire also, Im getting some of my treatment on the NHS, but have decided to pay for the white brackets, cos Im so vain, and still single so, don't want anything else to hinder things!!! , and still very active disease, this causes severe nutritional problems and vast amounts of acid reflux and nocturnal vomiting, I also have Type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes, and now Primary Sclorosing Cholangitis,(a Liver Disease), also due to both the diabetes and Crohns...Im greedy are'nt I?, so the teeth thing, saw this dentist after one of my teeth was pushed into the middle of my mouth, by the others , then due to nerve ending damage it went black and fell out ( its a problem with diabetes and teeth so my endocrinologist tells me, but in rare cases), I already have to use a stick to walk due to foot and leg neurapathy, so I was not taking any more chances.So got the referal, orthodontist a little abrupt, told his nurse what he was going to do, but not me, well not much but i was a little in shock. .due to the vomitting.
Hi Lucy and Choccyface,
Hi Karen , especially when one is in the frame of mind as i feel. The only friend I told when i cried on her shoulder said that braces were really cool, and I was so lucky????( yes it was a friend not a former patient) , and i do wonder how much they know about the effect of Crohns and Diabetes on my life ( I am medically retired, spending much time in bed, and at least, five months in hospital each year (longest was one year nine months), so it sort of rules my life 
), my family has become so negitive that I have decided to not even tell them when (or indeed if) I will have the surgery. There is no reason to invite the bad vibes in. Something gives me the feeling that seeing your teeth move into a beautiful smile will help you in ways you may not even realize. Lets face it, when we look good, we feel even better. I too look foward to hearing how your braces journey evolves.
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Hi to Lucy loop, Delag and Karen, and many thanks for your lovely support, its very important to me, i actually feel a little better about the braces today, maybe its because the crohns is playing up ,and i've got more to worry about like trying to stay out of hospital at this very moment . ), and he only uses essix, and can't see a need for 24/7 and the acid problem..which has annoyed my dentist and my endocrinologist, but they have suggested when the time comes, i could either argue the point, or be referred elsewhere!!, this happens in my care generally, so although a hassle, its usual for me , no wonder Im on volume 7 of medical notes for one hospital, and volume 5 for another!!!
, ie no bowel, or bladder, also lost one kidney and the liver needs replacing, and feeding is via NG (nasal) tube , hmmmm i suppose the braces are a walk in the park, so many thanks to all, I shall follow my own treatment karen, but you know what they say about doctors being the worst patients, well I'm 100% up there ,they are actually helping with my sanity over braces at the moment. , as written about previously, they just know me as Dr or Prof Jon whois a little controversial?? I have a 1971 Mk IV Triumph Spitfire (nicknamed Kimmy after her reg number). I cna't wait for this wet weather to stop so I can start driving her again. She's been under cover all winter. Hi to Karen and Lisa , I also work privatly, and I feel that it is the only was forward for patient choice(hope i don't get 10000's of pro NHS people bombarding me now!!) Jon XXX Hi Friends 
