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Hello iv been needed braces for a long time but due to family issues ect i never got to get them, so now im 22 and decided i can now afford to do it. i had a consultation today at a ortho about 6month smiles and they said they can basically close the gaps either side of my front teeth and widen my smile but id still ave my overbite/overjet as they can only reduce it by 1mm possibly 2mm and id have the brace for 4 months...
now my over bite doesnt bother me to much its approx 7mm but id like to shed more off it, id be quite happy to have a 4mm over bite......my 2 front teeth messure a gap of about 7mm but the teeth next to them either side messure a gap of about 4mm.............
i dont mind having traditional braces but id like clear brackets not metal ones, do you think a traditional brace would help me at all?? I am seeing 3 orthos this week/next to get opinions but id like to no what you all think from past experiences ect.. many thanks
I DONT WANT SURGERY ITS NOT A OPTION!!!
heres a couple of pics, please excuse my teeth there hidious! i also have a enamal problem not sure what its called again but id like to get that fixed aswell after my braces...
Im not an ortho but I've seen a bit of discussion on the 6 month braces technique and I believe the guy that invented it posts on this board. Basically its a compromise treatment option that I think ideally is only to straighten out crooked front teeth, since that seem to be the easy and fast part of orthodontics.
However when it comes to correcting a bad bite such as overbite and overjet, that is something that takes a lot of time and is beyond the scope of 6 mo braces. I think that if your bite is off and you use the fast technique just to straighten the teeth, you will have a great deal of relapse because the the straight teeth will not want to stay in their spot due to the bite being less than ideal.
I would highly recommend just going for the full deal, since the first few months is the hard part of dealing with braces, and once your treatment is over with the 6 month you may decide braces weren't that bad and you will want full correction.
Its hard to see from your pictures the full scope of the orthodontic problem so its hard to say if you need extensive treatment I don't think overbite/overjets is a very fast fix, especially without surgery.
thanks for the reply, i am going to prob go for the traditional braces however opt for the clear brackets or tooth color brackets...... I have 3 more consultations with local orthodontists, i am against the 6 month smile make over now as i want to shed of more the 1mm of my over bite.... id like it reduced to about 4mm
I have a similar problem to you - 7mm overbite and crooked front teeth. I would seriously consider surgery, as reducing the overbite with braces alone will just tip the top teeth back and the bottom teeth forward, as yours seem to be doing to some degree anyway.
When I was first offered the surgery option I was totally against it, but after considering it properly and looking at the different outcomes, I've decided to do it properly and have the surgery. I know it's not for everyone but please look into it more.
theres not possible way i am having surgery on my jaw i have a bad phobia of anything like that so i couldnt phisically bring myself to do it, i no surgery would help me alot but its something i will not consider at all due to a number of reasons mainly im a wimp
Six Month Braces is an alternatice treatment for those who want straight teeth and a nice smile but refuse to wear braces long term. What I personally tell both the patients I treat and doctors I teach is to think of it as "orthodontic veneers" the goal of porc veneers is to give you a great smile as is the goal for cosmetic orthodontics. that isnt to say we do not change the bite at all since we do but we are not trying to achieve all of the same goals that comprehensive ortho does i.e not turning class 2 or 3 cases into class 1 cases. We align teeth, open deep bites, close open bites, etc. Consider this "chief complaint" orthodontics. Additionally very similar treatments are done with invisalign the main difference in those situations is they use aligners instead of brackets as the tooth moving tool. So in an overjet case we can reduce overjets AMAP but may not completely eliminate it. A good way to tell where your overjet is going to finish is by looking at how far class 3 your canine is. that gives a pretty good indication. Personally I have some overjet but my teeth are straight so I just shoe the pts my straight teeth and tell then they will finsih with this much overjet (then tip my head back and show them) if that will make them happy we can proceed with Six Month Style treatment. If not then we proceed with comprehensive treatmeent (I do both) It is hard to say how much your overjet could be reducedas I cant tell the angles of the teeth, how foar class 2 your canine is, etc.
In regards to stability I have been doing ortho for almost 16 years and one form or another Six Month Braces for over a decade. If the cases werent stable I would have been run out of town a long time ago. Considering about 1/4 of my cases are relapse cases from comprehensive ortho it is hard to play the stability card. We have had excellent stability.
In my office the OP would never be a 4 month case. At least 6 maybe more. Clear or lingual braces behind the teeth could be used.
If I was treating the case comprehensively I might opt for surgery d/t the narrow width of the arches. I cant say in regards to the overjet since there is not nearly enough information here.
FWIW,
I am the Developer of Powerprox Six Month Braces
Six Month Smiles is taught by a former student of mine with FAR less experience than me.
There are many ways to reduce overjet non surgically.
Camoflague treatment with extractions, distilization (moving upper teeth back)
There is no way to tell from those pics what might work. Best to get a 'live' consultation.
My case is very different from yours but I can relate to being a "wimp" when it comes to surgery. I have a normal overbite and overjet but a very small upper arch (28 mm). I was told that the best course of action would be to have surgically assisted expansion. The thought of that surgery sends me into a panic attack not to mention I could never afford to do it. I was told by 4 orthos that even without the surgery (and if I was OK with a possible compromise result) that I should definitely go forward with treatment. They all pounded into my head that I would need to wear my retainer religiously-if I didn't I'd most definitely relapse to some extent. So I had 4 premolars extracted (no fun at all), opted for clear brackets on my social 6, am 2 years and 3 months into treatment and I'm very, very happy with my decision. Turns out everything will be able to be corrected and I won't be compromising on anything.
I definitely think that braces can help you and I think you should choose full comprehensive treatment to fix as much as you possibly can without surgery. The the key here is to be very upfront with the orthodontists you see. The first thing out of my mouth was that surgery was absolutely out of the question and I wanted an honest assessment of what it would mean to be treated not going that route.
Good luck with your decision, I know it's a hard one.
thanks very much i am going to say as soon as i get in my fears and tell them that in no way shape or form am i having surgery, i will also mention the other ways to recude the over bite in the above post and see what the out come is thanks alot ill keep u all updated, im seein a ortho tomorow at 12
Just so you know, I totally regret getting the ceremics. My ortho just put them on the front "social six" on top, which are all you see anyway. My complaint is that they're not as clear as you think. It's quite obvious to me that I have braces, so I wish I'd just gone the whole hog and got metal - I'm proud of them!
I also find - and anyone else here can tell me if they do too - that in photos, if I smile with teeth showing, that my teeth look large and lumpy and just plain weird!
I have no regrets based on treatment/pain/etc with ceremics - just the looks. So think seriously about them!
thanks for that i hurd you can get ceramics and clear ones aswell as metal, do the ceramics work different to the metal ones?? i mean does the treatment work better with metal ones
Some orthos will tell you that ceramic/sapphire brackets increase treatment time by 2 or 3 months. I'm not exactly sure why but I think it has something to do with amount of force able to be exerted on the bracket.
I don't know which clear bracket the other poster is wearing but I have inspire ice brackets (clear sapphire) and love them. I would get them again if I were to do things over. I find that unless a photo is a close-up, you can hardly tell I am wearing braces.
I have the Inspire Ice clear brackets and my orthodontist insisted that they wouldn't lengthen my treatment time. I have a severe overjet and I'm preparing for surgery.
