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#16 Post by **Eeegsy** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:30 pm

This is a site with pictures and details of each procedure.

http://faciomaxillary.tripod.com/

Didn't watch much of the videos but I see they cut underneath the palate. They didn't do that for my Leforte so they must be doing something else or have a different way of doing things...

#17 Post by **Brandyleigh35** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:51 pm

These are the old way they used to do it. My doctor said for me not to watch these, he said they hate them! That all they do is make people scared and are not accurate.....he said they don't even like to watch these themselves.

Brandy

Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:58 pm

ewww, the guy is at the start is not wearin gloves!!!

#19 Post by **RussUK** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:30 am

Hey everyone, I found even better surgical videos of the BSSO and LeFort orthognathic procedures. Do not watch if you are squeamish

Bilateral Sagital Split Osteotomy

Le Fort I

Enjoy!

#20 Post by **shani** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:28 am

these seem to be more recent, however not sure how recent as he still seemed to wire shut rather than band which is now more common. this made me realise that i shouldn't have been so shocked when post SARPE my surgeon was taking out stitches and forgot to cut and simple pulled it out - it seems they do whatever the heck they want! im just praying my surgeon leaves the stitches i have now alone!
really dont watch if your at all squeamish and not a great idea pre op for anyone!

#21 Post by **Thathrill** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:28 am

omg, from these reactions I definitely will not watch these videos. While I am curious as to know what happens, I would rather be told than showed. LOL I am so so glad I was put under GA when I had my wisdom teeth pulled cuz I was told they struggled with one of my teeth and took quite a while to come out and in the end, everything turned out perfectly. I will need lower jaw surgery for my underbite next year and I do not want to see what that is like

#22 Post by **KriegeR** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:00 pm

My apologies if anyone disagrees but I thought those videos were fantastic, and extremely informative. They are definitely not for pre-op members, or those who are squeamish or faint-hearted even in the slightest, but I sat and watched those two end to end. I'm not squeamish at all, and I do like to see what happened to me if I've undergone something major like this.

My only feedback comment from watching them would be "Whoa! They did all that ... to me ... and afterwards all I got was a bit of swelling and some moderate pain and discomfort, but it still fixed my jaws?? Jeez!"

Some people might call me sick, but I actually asked my surgeon if my operation would be filmed (sometimes they do this for training purposes), and if so would I be able to get a copy. Unfortunately the answer was no, but these two videos certainly taught me a thing or two. They make me feel a lot better about it too knowing what's happened to me.

Again though, if you're squeamish even in the slightest or worried about your op, don't bother looking! Wait until it's been done and you're feeling better.

You've been warned!

#23 Post by **KriegeR** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:06 pm

shani wrote:these seem to be more recent, however not sure how recent as he still seemed to wire shut rather than band which is now more common. this made me realise that i shouldn't have been so shocked when post SARPE my surgeon was taking out stitches and forgot to cut and simple pulled it out - it seems they do whatever the heck they want! im just praying my surgeon leaves the stitches i have now alone!
really dont watch if your at all squeamish and not a great idea pre op for anyone!

Forgot to address this in my previous post, but in the Le Fort I clip, the wiring was to fix the dental splint in place between the top and bottom teeth; not to wire the teeth together. They wire the splint to the top and bottom brackets of your brace so that it stays firmly in place. When I came round after surgery I was in the same boat with my splint in place wired firmly to my brace brackets, which made drinking extremely difficult. They had me on a saline drip instead initially until I mastered the art of drinking with the splint and a numb lip devoid of sensation, without spilling it all down my front. You can still open your mouth slightly with a splint in place, but they don't leave you with much jaw movement.

1 week post-op I had an appointment with the surgical team and my orthodontist, and the both agreed that the splint could be removed. I think my orthodontist had to snip about 6 wires to get the thing off, which shows how securely the splint is fastened in place.

#24 Post by **shani** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:31 pm

i have a splint in place, however it is only wired to my top jaw, leaving my bottom jaw free, with little movement tho, and i have elastics to keep things in the right spots. is it common to have it wired top and bottom? i kinda just figured this was the only way they did it, however i also kinda wished they were both wired, just saw my OS who said that my jaws are not meeting in the right place and i have to try and trust my lower jaw forward in order to get a fit at the front, the sides and back do not fit at all, but i dont think he is concearned about the back as much as the front. 1 more sucky week with it in and then hopefully life improves!

#25 Post by **pokergirl** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:18 am

I am very squeamish and faint of heart but my curiosity got the best of me after reading everyone's posts. I clicked off at 15 seconds. I should have known better cuz I can't watch all of a Grey's Anatomy episode without turning my head during the surgery scenes.

#26 Post by **KriegeR** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:10 am

shani wrote:i have a splint in place, however it is only wired to my top jaw, leaving my bottom jaw free, with little movement tho, and i have elastics to keep things in the right spots. is it common to have it wired top and bottom? i kinda just figured this was the only way they did it, however i also kinda wished they were both wired, just saw my OS who said that my jaws are not meeting in the right place and i have to try and trust my lower jaw forward in order to get a fit at the front, the sides and back do not fit at all, but i dont think he is concearned about the back as much as the front. 1 more sucky week with it in and then hopefully life improves!

In the immediate 24 hours (although they are a little bit 'foggy'), I believe my splint was wired in place top and bottom. After I'd had (or was supposed to have), a good sleep the surgeon came back the following day and removed the wires holding the splint to my top teeth, so it was only wired to my bottom jaw. This started worrying me because once the top jaw left the splint, I couldn't get my teeth to bite back into it! My surgeon assured me that this wasn't a problem and would be sorted out by my ortho. Once the splint was removed 1 week post-op, my orthodontist announced that my top and bottom jaws were meeting with a considerable cross-bite, and that my bottom jaw was still a little too far forward than they would have liked. However the elastics have done a fantastic job over the last 4 weeks and my cross-bite is now negligible, and my top teeth are finally starting to come down in front of my bottom teeth. I shouldn't worry too much about the alignment issues too much. It's amazing what little pieces of rubber fastened to your brace can do!

pokergirl wrote:I am very squeamish and faint of heart but my curiosity got the best of me after reading everyone's posts. I clicked off at 15 seconds. I should have known better cuz I can't watch all of a Grey's Anatomy episode without turning my head during the surgery scenes.

Well you can't say we didn't warn you!

I knew from the moment the video started "No a lot of people are going to like this!". As I said things like this don't bother me, as I'm very much a science-person and I'm always intrigued by how things are done.

#27 Post by **dubnobass** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:17 am

I found the Youtube videos fascinating - though exclaimed "Good god!" throughout. I'm just surprised I didn't have more pain/swelling/bruising post-op than I did. They were both fairly brutal. To think I joked about hammers and chisels..

#28 Post by **KriegeR** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:31 am

dubnobass wrote:They were both fairly brutal. To think I joked about hammers and chisels..

That's what took me by surprise!

I couldn't believe how much relative 'comfort' I was in post-op when you actually see what they do! Amazing!

But then again it takes a lot of force to break an arm or a leg. Considering that the jaws are powered by the most powerful muscle group in the body in relation to size, I suppose the amount of force required in an osteotomy of the jaw is justified as I should imagine they are very hard and tough!

#29 Post by **shani** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:29 am

yeah, i think this is the time when i am thankful for nerve damage and numbness, it certainly works to your advantage at this point!

#30 Post by **Delag** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:29 am

I just gave these a peek. I am pre op and I have to say I am glad I saw them. I tend to be a very bad patient (ie. I always try to do too much too soon because I am a wonder woman wannabe). Seeing this helped me realize that I really will need to rest and do what the doctors say......even if I don't like it

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