Hello,
Is it the orthodontist who gives the information on how many mm is a particular thing
off, or is it the surgeon? My orthodontist hasn't mentioned any exact measurements
so far, so that's why I'm asking.
Thanks in advance.
lefort and gummy smile
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Minerva wrote:Hello,
Is it the orthodontist who gives the information on how many mm is a particulat thing
is off, or is it the surgeon? My orthodontist hasn't mentioned any exact measurements
so far, so that's why I'm asking.
Thanks in advance.
My surgeon told me the advancement amount.
Thanks for telling me where I should be looking, keeponsmiling. I was thinking it was the nose. When I thought "bulldog" look, I was thinking like saggy areas around the cheek. I'm not so worried anymore

Re: lefort and gummy smile
Minerva - The surgeon will tell you how many mm he will be moving your jaw(s) after looking at your x-rays and molds/models.
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ggina - Is 'chin ptosis' the technical name for those little bumps you get when you have lip incompetence and you force your lips together? It's really unfortunate if you didn't have those problems before but got them post-surgery.
Olive - I'm assuming that as we already have those issues, surgery surely couldn't worsen them... right...? Also, I just read on a different thread (Aussiere on 'adults in their 40s') that bringing the jaw forward would be like a mini face lift. Those weren't the surgeon's exact words, and obviously everyone's case is different, but I find that very reassuring. I think it kind of suggests that what we hoped - that the lower jaw advancement would somehow compensate for the impaction. Guess we'll all find out for sure in a few months!!
Olive - I'm assuming that as we already have those issues, surgery surely couldn't worsen them... right...? Also, I just read on a different thread (Aussiere on 'adults in their 40s') that bringing the jaw forward would be like a mini face lift. Those weren't the surgeon's exact words, and obviously everyone's case is different, but I find that very reassuring. I think it kind of suggests that what we hoped - that the lower jaw advancement would somehow compensate for the impaction. Guess we'll all find out for sure in a few months!!
Re: lefort and gummy smile
I believe your referring to "mentalis strain" and not "chin ptosis", the latter is is when the chin pad droops downward which you see often in older people.keeponsmiling wrote:ggina - Is 'chin ptosis' the technical name for those little bumps you get when you have lip incompetence and you force your lips together? It's really unfortunate if you didn't have those problems before but got them post-surgery.
Olive - I'm assuming that as we already have those issues, surgery surely couldn't worsen them... right...? Also, I just read on a different thread (Aussiere on 'adults in their 40s') that bringing the jaw forward would be like a mini face lift. Those weren't the surgeon's exact words, and obviously everyone's case is different, but I find that very reassuring. I think it kind of suggests that what we hoped - that the lower jaw advancement would somehow compensate for the impaction. Guess we'll all find out for sure in a few months!!
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Re: lefort and gummy smile
Thanks for clarifying. Yet another side effect to worry about...!
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No I didn't have the lower jaw done.
As for the bulldog-look, I'm not sure that means sagging jowls, I'm for sure don't have that. I'd rather call mine chipmunk cheeks or something. Like I hid something between the upper gums and the upper lip
And the ptoic chin resulting from the genio, well I see this as a fairly commonly reported one, at least when I google it, but yes it's not posted on these forums too often. My guess is that many people aren't bothered by it at all, or maybe they don't even notice it because their other facial changes are much more dramatic.
Genio is usually a cosmetic thing only, so if the needed movement is not too much, I'd rather avoid it competely, or if there would only be forward movement, an implant might solve the problem as well, which is much safer as it doesn't involve cutting and screwing bones. You'll have enough of that already
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By "being careful" I only meant that you should talk it over with your surgeon not just jump right into it. Mine said he couldn't have prevented it even if we talked about it before but your surgeon might be more experienced in this topic.
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As for the bulldog-look, I'm not sure that means sagging jowls, I'm for sure don't have that. I'd rather call mine chipmunk cheeks or something. Like I hid something between the upper gums and the upper lip

And the ptoic chin resulting from the genio, well I see this as a fairly commonly reported one, at least when I google it, but yes it's not posted on these forums too often. My guess is that many people aren't bothered by it at all, or maybe they don't even notice it because their other facial changes are much more dramatic.
Genio is usually a cosmetic thing only, so if the needed movement is not too much, I'd rather avoid it competely, or if there would only be forward movement, an implant might solve the problem as well, which is much safer as it doesn't involve cutting and screwing bones. You'll have enough of that already

By "being careful" I only meant that you should talk it over with your surgeon not just jump right into it. Mine said he couldn't have prevented it even if we talked about it before but your surgeon might be more experienced in this topic.
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