why do people usually get attractive after surgery

[shanalouis]

i know everyone usually looks different after surgery but with surgery and a natural bite does it make one automatically attractive? there's many people with bad bites that dont even think they need surgery or even know they have a problem with thier bite and is getting other plastic surgeries for the wrong reasons when they should really be going to a maxillofacial surgeon.

where does attactiveness usually come from?

[charlsie142]

While not guaranteed, often orthognathic surgery results in a more balanced face and pleasing profile. Like in my case, I had a long face, and by having my upper jaw impacted in addition to having my lower jaw moved forward, I now have a shorter face and better profile compared to before surgery.

And yes, I would say a lot of times those who seek plastic surgery might have benefited from orthognathic surgery instead, but if they don't necessarily have pain from their jaws not aligning properly or other issues resulting from this, any surgery they seek would likely be cosmetic. Personally, I could not go through jaw surgery for cosmetic reasons alone, much less afford it without having insurance coverage (which requires medical necessity).

[MetalMedic]

i know everyone usually looks different after surgery but with surgery and a natural bite does it make one automatically attractive? there's many people with bad bites that dont even think they need surgery or even know they have a problem with thier bite and is getting other plastic surgeries for the wrong reasons when they should really be going to a maxillofacial surgeon.

where does attactiveness usually come from?

The thing about orthognathic surgery is that it's primary use is for functional abilities, such as chewing, breathing, actually being able to close your mouth, etc. The second plus from it is the aesthetic result or the way that you look like afterward. We are used to seeing people everyday with a well balanced face, in that our maxilla, mandible, and chin line up in a proper position that is appealing to the eye. People that have a functional disability usually have an aesthetic misalignment as well. After people get the surgery, they look better because their functional and aesthetic properties are now in balance. People that are getting surgery other than for functional reasons are getting duped. The reason behind it is because they're only fixing the "look" and not the cause, so if they fixed the cause "the look" would get fixed at the same time.

Also, dont forget, most plastic surgeons are in the business for the money, and not for making someone "better." So their minds are different place, and would rather see your money rather than justify and explain going to a doctor that can do both, not just one fix at the same time.

[shanalouis]

wow you guys are right!.................

i dont have any functional problems with my jaw, so i guess i am only doing it for the look. i think if i had this surgery a long time ago, i wouldnt have been teased in high school so much and i knew there was something always off about my face but i didnt know there was anything wrong with my jaw until after doing some research online.............

[MetalMedic]

wow you guys are right!.................

i dont have any functional problems with my jaw, so i guess i am only doing it for the look. i think if i had this surgery a long time ago, i wouldnt have been teased in high school so much and i knew there was something always off about my face but i didnt know there was anything wrong with my jaw until after doing some research online.............

Do you know 100% for certain there is no functional problem with it? Or are you just assuming. I, for the longest time thought that it was just aesthetic and that everyone had jaws and teeth like I did. Little did I know that it was coming from a functional standpoint. This was made clear to me after I finally decided to "just get my teeth straightened" and my orthodontist explained it to me and recommended I go consult with the surgeon, where he further elaborated.

If I were you, I would get a consult with an orthodontist and oral maxiofacial surgeon. Let them evaluate you, and let them decide whether its truly a functional problem or the issue is truly aesthetic alone. Trust me, let the trained eyes tell you. And if it is only aesthetic, THEN look into getting it fixed. Hope this helps!

[Kirish]

Give me a break people, you remind me of those who go through nose surgery and claim the reason is breathing issues. Right...

I'm not saying nobody ever did jaw surgery just because of functional problems, but reading this thread one could think the aesthetic motivation is minor. B.S.

I've been here for almost a year now, and the motivation for this surgery (for almost all members in this forum) is an aesthetic one. The functional reason is a far second.

I can tell you that I've seen more cases here in this forum where surgery *created* functional problems, than cases where people report a relief of a functional problem.

When you read what people in this forum write after surgery, they almost always focus entirely on the aesthetic outcome. Rarely will they speak about a functional problem that disappeared.

I wouldn't go as far to say that jaw surgery = breast enlargement, but definitely not less aesthetic driven than nose surgery.

[James0099]

I'm getting the surgery because I don't have a bite really, my back teeth are the only ones that touch and barely. It was annoying eating and not being able to bite into things.

I didn't even know that my face wasn't right, that the area between my upper lip and nose was too far in and looked weird, until my surgeon pointed this out. Never thought I needed surgery, thought braces would fix my problem. My bite is off by just a little bit.

I didn't go into this worried about my looks, but mainly because I never thought anything was wrong with my looks, when I look in the mirror I wouldn't tell, then I look at me from a side view and you can.

[Kirish]

I'm getting the surgery because I don't have a bite really, my back teeth are the only ones that touch and barely. It was annoying eating and not being able to bite into things.

I didn't even know that my face wasn't right, that the area between my upper lip and nose was too far in and looked weird, until my surgeon pointed this out. Never thought I needed surgery, thought braces would fix my problem. My bite is off by just a little bit.

I didn't go into this worried about my looks, but mainly because I never thought anything was wrong with my looks, when I look in the mirror I wouldn't tell, then I look at me from a side view and you can.

Then your case is very rare, my friend.

I didn't understand what do you have ?, an underbite ? overbite ?

[James0099]

I'm getting the surgery because I don't have a bite really, my back teeth are the only ones that touch and barely. It was annoying eating and not being able to bite into things.

I didn't even know that my face wasn't right, that the area between my upper lip and nose was too far in and looked weird, until my surgeon pointed this out. Never thought I needed surgery, thought braces would fix my problem. My bite is off by just a little bit.

I didn't go into this worried about my looks, but mainly because I never thought anything was wrong with my looks, when I look in the mirror I wouldn't tell, then I look at me from a side view and you can.

Then your case is very rare, my friend.

I didn't understand what do you have ?, an underbite ? overbite ?

I have an under bite, my lower jaw is further out than my upper which is in and when you look at my face from the side view you can see that it doesn't look right.

I think I have like 2 teeth on each side that are touching, that is my motivation as I think my long term health of my teeth will be better if I had this done, with too much pressure on those couple teeth that are touching. But after my surgeon showed me how my face isn't normal that is when I think about the looks part with expanding my upper jaw.

[MetalMedic]

Give me a break people, you remind me of those who go through nose surgery and claim the reason is breathing issues. Right...

I'm not saying nobody ever did jaw surgery just because of functional problems, but reading this thread one could think the aesthetic motivation is minor. B.S.

I've been here for almost a year now, and the motivation for this surgery (for almost all members in this forum) is an aesthetic one. The functional reason is a far second.

I can tell you that I've seen more cases here in this forum where surgery *created* functional problems, than cases where people report a relief of a functional problem.

When you read what people in this forum write after surgery, they almost always focus entirely on the aesthetic outcome. Rarely will they speak about a functional problem that disappeared.

I wouldn't go as far to say that jaw surgery = breast enlargement, but definitely not less aesthetic driven than nose surgery.

Kirsch,

There are people that come up with "functional problems" as a reason to get the procedure just to get something done so they "look better." I'm not arguing that with you. The problem is when people make ill formed decisions just because that's the only way they know they could get anything done, for ex. maxo facial surgeon will touch them because there is no problem to begin with. Outward appearance and aesthetic appeal is ABSOLUTELY a huge motivation for having jaw surgery, I'm not arguing that with you lol. The thing is that people often go in NOT UNDERSTANDING that there is a functional problem AS WELL. Thats all.

People don't get judged by other people because they can't bite a sandwhich properly, people get get judged by their outward appearance, its natural instinct. The problem is that when people make fake problems just to fix it. You know, I could have gotten a "nose job" so I could breathe through my nose better, but i didnt because i sought the advice of someone wiser was and explained the problem is further than "just my nose."

People are going to focus on the aesthetic outcome because the person they walk by down the street isnt focusing on whether or not their teeth come together properly, but rather if they "look normal." So OF COURSE people are going to focus on aesthetics, but I dont think thats ALL they think about.

Like many others on here, I knew I had an aesthetic problem, and was told it was because of the way everything came together. I just benefited from the results there of. I had a huge overbite. I was focused on getting that fixed after I was made more aware of the problem, and was ready to accept the aesthetic outcome from the surgery whatever it may be. So again, do people focus mostly on aesthetics? Absolutely, but it doesnt hurt to go in knowing eactly what is going on.

[isolde]

Kirish,

The majority of people do not put their faces through the surgical equivalent of a car crash for such predominantly aesthetic reasons as you say.

If I were told that I would look exactly the same yet my bite corrected, I would without hesitation do it.

Every situation is personal, every bite different; and the EFFECTS of the bite itself on the person? Whether they be physical, or emotional, or both, they are unique.

It's not quite so easy to generalise and box.

[Audra]

Kirish,

The majority of people do not put their faces through the surgical equivalent of a car crash for such predominantly aesthetic reasons as you say.

If I were told that I would look exactly the same yet my bite corrected, I would without hesitation do it.

Every situation is personal, every bite different; and the EFFECTS of the bite itself on the person? Whether they be physical, or emotional, or both, they are unique.

It's not quite so easy to generalise and box.

I agree with isolde. When I went into this (and by this I mean when I first booked the consult with the orthodontist and got the braces, knowing that I would need jaw surgery) I had no idea how my face was going to change.

I DID do this for functional reasons. Having had ulcerative colitis and losing my colon, it was very easy to see (literally) that my body was not digesting food properly. Also, my dentist pointed out that my teeth were beginning to wear out. It was not the look of the teeth wearing that concerned me. It was the fact that they would not last the remainder of my life. If I hadn't had a failed root canal that I am going to replace with an implant, I still may not have undertaken this path. But my periodontist said that if I was ever going to fix my bite, now would be the time to do it - before I get the implant. So I did.

I have never disliked how I look or my smile, even though I had an underbite. I never thought it made me unattractive. While I am pleased with the aesthetic results from having the jaw surgery, it was not the main reason AT ALL that I did this. When I had rhinoplasty 10 years ago, THAT was all aesthetic as I hated the bump on my nose. I would NEVER have gone through a major surgery like this just for aesthetic purposes. This surgery is not easy. It is BRUTAL. In the first two weeks post-op I swore that if given the chance again to go through with it, I would not. Now that my teeth meet properly and I can chew food, and most of the swelling and pain are gone, I can say that I would go through with it again. But if the only purpose was for how I looked - no way.

I don't fault anyone who is going through this for an aesthetic purpose. My own underbite was more of an edge to edge bite when I got braces so it was not very noticeable. When surgery came, of course the underbite was worse because my teeth were where they belonged.

[shanalouis]

wow you guys are right!.................

i dont have any functional problems with my jaw, so i guess i am only doing it for the look. i think if i had this surgery a long time ago, i wouldnt have been teased in high school so much and i knew there was something always off about my face but i didnt know there was anything wrong with my jaw until after doing some research online.............

Do you know 100% for certain there is no functional problem with it? Or are you just assuming. I, for the longest time thought that it was just aesthetic and that everyone had jaws and teeth like I did. Little did I know that it was coming from a functional standpoint. This was made clear to me after I finally decided to "just get my teeth straightened" and my orthodontist explained it to me and recommended I go consult with the surgeon, where he further elaborated.

If I were you, I would get a consult with an orthodontist and oral maxiofacial surgeon. Let them evaluate you, and let them decide whether its truly a functional problem or the issue is truly aesthetic alone. Trust me, let the trained eyes tell you. And if it is only aesthetic, THEN look into getting it fixed. Hope this helps!

i've been to 4 surgeons and they all said i have a short lower jaw.
i dont know of any other problems i have but like i said i'm only doing it to look better ................................

[MetalMedic]

Wow, 4 surgeons, good for you. Well, at least you have your bases covered. Al lot of people would be hard pressed just to visit one.

What kind of suggestions did they recommenced? Did they all tell you the same thing or where there 4 different opinions on how to fix it. Believe me, some can range to rather conservative to very complex. lol

I'm glad you've at least got multiple opinions and they all agree on the same fundamental problem. Now you need to come up with solutions.

YOU DO understand, that jaw surgery is about just as pleasurable as sticking your fingers into an electrical socket while holding a light bulb in your mouth, right? lol

As long as it's going to make you feel better, cant hold you against it. Good luck and let us know what they say!

[shanalouis]

YOU DO understand, that jaw surgery is about just as pleasurable as sticking your fingers into an electrical socket while holding a light bulb in your mouth, right? lol

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are you serious?