first day
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drgnchsr36
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Hi drgnchsr36!
Honestly...I don't know...I've been asking myself this question for the past few days....I was so happy that there was a treatment with removable appliances...I remember from my first time in braces that I felt really claustrofobic and out of control about the whole thing...It's a character trade I guess...But now that I know that I had really little problems with the aligners (appearance,they are NOT invisible
presence in my mouth etc) I might consider it...
Honestly...I don't know...I've been asking myself this question for the past few days....I was so happy that there was a treatment with removable appliances...I remember from my first time in braces that I felt really claustrofobic and out of control about the whole thing...It's a character trade I guess...But now that I know that I had really little problems with the aligners (appearance,they are NOT invisible
presence in my mouth etc) I might consider it...-
drgnchsr36
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Good luck with the decision - hopefully you won't have to make it.
Braces aren't so bad, but this is my first experience with them. I do know what you mean though that you have no control over it.. you're a bit stuck with them once they're on.
Braces aren't so bad, but this is my first experience with them. I do know what you mean though that you have no control over it.. you're a bit stuck with them once they're on.
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Thanx drgnchsr36, I'll keep you posted...
hmm...can't post the clincheck or pictures..The pictures are too large and the clincheck is not allowed..
hmm...can't post the clincheck or pictures..The pictures are too large and the clincheck is not allowed..
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drgnchsr36
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If you have photoshop or some photo program, you can resize the photos and upload them.
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I'll try with he pics later!
For now, Ihad a terrible night..waking up with a soar throat every half hour..by now I really suspect invisalign is causing some allergical reaction...I have swollen glands, puffy face and red eyes and I feel lousy..I am allergic to other things as well, so I recognize te reaction. Keep in mind that I have not been exposed to any other thing I've known to be allergic to. The last three weeks I've gone from being completely healthy and active to being fatigued, and energy deprived.
I really don't know what to do at the moment...I've really committed myself to do this, so I find it hard at this stage to quit the aligner wear...But I don't want to feel like this for the next 6 months!
I know for sure that my ortho will not take the complaint seriously, I asked her casually before I started and she said she never heard of such a thing...I'm bummed...I spend a lot of money and I will probably have nothing to show for it...
Sorry for the rant!
For now, Ihad a terrible night..waking up with a soar throat every half hour..by now I really suspect invisalign is causing some allergical reaction...I have swollen glands, puffy face and red eyes and I feel lousy..I am allergic to other things as well, so I recognize te reaction. Keep in mind that I have not been exposed to any other thing I've known to be allergic to. The last three weeks I've gone from being completely healthy and active to being fatigued, and energy deprived.
I really don't know what to do at the moment...I've really committed myself to do this, so I find it hard at this stage to quit the aligner wear...But I don't want to feel like this for the next 6 months!
I know for sure that my ortho will not take the complaint seriously, I asked her casually before I started and she said she never heard of such a thing...I'm bummed...I spend a lot of money and I will probably have nothing to show for it...
Sorry for the rant!
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You should probably get an appointment with an allergist (a doctor specializing in allergies). He or she could probably answer your question better than an Orthodontist. I would guess the Align company would give you a refund if you're actually allergic to the plastic.
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If - for instance - you show your orthodontist the discussion linked to: here from this group: ESCO, in particular this post:Olivia wrote: I know for sure that my ortho will not take the complaint seriously, I asked her casually before I started and she said she never heard of such a thing...
January 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm by Shawn L. Miller (simply a link from his practice), she will have heard of such a thing ...
The source for that thread seems to be a reputable group of professional orthodontists, as does the author of the post (please double-check links for yourself). His point is that Invasalign do know about this issue and can (if pressed, with persistence) supply an alternative.
I didn’t join this board to post on this issue, simply to read about others’ experience of aligners in general, and I posted initially not on this point, but to confirm the positive side of getting my teeth adjusted. The gain has been positive, and I’m honestly glad to have more confidence now with smiling or laughing and so on. I would have done this some years ago had I known how to do it.
But I was surprised by my own experience of what I now believe was an adverse reaction to the aligners, and there do seem to be many reports of this - far too many for a casual dismissal. It seems to the credit of the orthodontist Shawn Miller (cited above) that he didn’t dismiss it, but followed it through, and found an answer with the suppliers.
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Thank you for responding!
Curlew, I will take the report with me on thursday..I started taking the meds and I feel much better now! But I will be MUCh happier if I can prolonge treatment without having to take a quite heavy medicine with is quite sedative too!
I must admit I have been slacking the last few days...I hope everything is still on track..The aligner still fits perfectly and goes in and out without any pressure, so I keep my fingers crossed..
I llok forward to getting my new sets, I want this to be over asap!
Curlew, I will take the report with me on thursday..I started taking the meds and I feel much better now! But I will be MUCh happier if I can prolonge treatment without having to take a quite heavy medicine with is quite sedative too!
I must admit I have been slacking the last few days...I hope everything is still on track..The aligner still fits perfectly and goes in and out without any pressure, so I keep my fingers crossed..
I llok forward to getting my new sets, I want this to be over asap!
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Been to the ortho this morning and we didn't even get top the allergy questions....
What happened? Well.....My first aligner didn't fot well at all, there was a lot of open space behind my teeth until the second to last molars...This made speaking nearly impossible...I thought this was normal until I tried the second aligner, which fitted Much better....I got my new sets and tried nr. 3 , and it was again, a very ill fitting aligner. My ortho checked and we saw that the aligner 1 and 3 (and 4, 5 and 6) seemed to be " off" On the second aligner you could see that also the back was perfectly shaped according to my gums...the other aligners didn't have that finishing touch and looked like something went wrong shaping them...(Or rather, they weren't shaped)
So....I am now to wear the second aligner at night only, while she's ordering new ones....Had my attachments removed..which feels kinda good...but I want to continue asap, because I'm used to the fulltime wear now and I'm taking meds!
oh well, just a bump in the road to my beautiful smile!
What happened? Well.....My first aligner didn't fot well at all, there was a lot of open space behind my teeth until the second to last molars...This made speaking nearly impossible...I thought this was normal until I tried the second aligner, which fitted Much better....I got my new sets and tried nr. 3 , and it was again, a very ill fitting aligner. My ortho checked and we saw that the aligner 1 and 3 (and 4, 5 and 6) seemed to be " off" On the second aligner you could see that also the back was perfectly shaped according to my gums...the other aligners didn't have that finishing touch and looked like something went wrong shaping them...(Or rather, they weren't shaped)
So....I am now to wear the second aligner at night only, while she's ordering new ones....Had my attachments removed..which feels kinda good...but I want to continue asap, because I'm used to the fulltime wear now and I'm taking meds!
oh well, just a bump in the road to my beautiful smile!
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Best of luck with all this. For the moment as a few people suggest, you could try to ensure that any new aligner is thoroughly rinsed before first use - it might help.
I have not alerted my own orthodontist to the problem raised in recent threads, apart from mentioning on my first check-up, shortly in to the start of the process, that I’d had a bad cold - I was coughing as I saw him, so he asked about it. At that point I thought it was just bad luck, a coincidence. I suppose he did too.
I would guess this happens more often than not - people might not talk this through with the orthodontist, as they’re not at all clear what's happening in the first place, and don’t want to confuse a good working relationship. It is both brave and expensive to commit to a full course of aligners, and people naturally want to trust the process, not to raise odd questions. So I guess this experience may be under-reported.
An “informed consent” form seems to exist for Invasalign and some other suppliers, but I have no idea if it is standard to use this - I guess it's just up to the orthodontist.
e.g:
for Invasalign, http://www.brightondental.co.uk/Invisal ... onsent.pdf, ("(xvi) Allergic reactions may occur")
or: Clear Aligner Consent, ("Though uncommon, allergic reactions to the material used during treatment may occur.")
I tend to believe the report above in this thread, of what seems a credible orthodontist, that he only got a useful response from the suppliers, through his own persistence - and a refusal to take no for an answer, when he queried a low-allergenic route for his client.
It appears this may involve a different method of sterilisation.
As Dr Tam points out, there are now more than 1.5 million people who have used/are using aligner systems worldwide. But it follows that the higher the total number of users, then even with a low percentage of problem reactions, the higher their number is going to be too. So if there is a genuine issue, it becomes more, not less important to solve it, as the popularity of the procedure rises. The proportion of people in any population, likely to be susceptible to allergic reactions, is not so low, statistically, as to be an irrelevance.
I have not alerted my own orthodontist to the problem raised in recent threads, apart from mentioning on my first check-up, shortly in to the start of the process, that I’d had a bad cold - I was coughing as I saw him, so he asked about it. At that point I thought it was just bad luck, a coincidence. I suppose he did too.
I would guess this happens more often than not - people might not talk this through with the orthodontist, as they’re not at all clear what's happening in the first place, and don’t want to confuse a good working relationship. It is both brave and expensive to commit to a full course of aligners, and people naturally want to trust the process, not to raise odd questions. So I guess this experience may be under-reported.
An “informed consent” form seems to exist for Invasalign and some other suppliers, but I have no idea if it is standard to use this - I guess it's just up to the orthodontist.
e.g:
for Invasalign, http://www.brightondental.co.uk/Invisal ... onsent.pdf, ("(xvi) Allergic reactions may occur")
or: Clear Aligner Consent, ("Though uncommon, allergic reactions to the material used during treatment may occur.")
I tend to believe the report above in this thread, of what seems a credible orthodontist, that he only got a useful response from the suppliers, through his own persistence - and a refusal to take no for an answer, when he queried a low-allergenic route for his client.
It appears this may involve a different method of sterilisation.
As Dr Tam points out, there are now more than 1.5 million people who have used/are using aligner systems worldwide. But it follows that the higher the total number of users, then even with a low percentage of problem reactions, the higher their number is going to be too. So if there is a genuine issue, it becomes more, not less important to solve it, as the popularity of the procedure rises. The proportion of people in any population, likely to be susceptible to allergic reactions, is not so low, statistically, as to be an irrelevance.