triangles inbetween teeth.

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#1 Post by **payoki** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:31 am

I got my braces off last friday and I love the result,
but I noticed several triangles inbetween my lower front teeth...
and a real big one right in the middle. I feel so old!!
My mother has them but she's in her late 60's!!!
I didn't have them before...
sigh..I better go see a dentist.

#2 Post by **Indalee** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:25 am

Hi payoki! Iâ€™m still in braces however I too have a triangle space between my front top teeth. I should be finished with my treatment by the end of this year and Iâ€™m hoping that this space is closed by that time. Especially since that was one of the reasons I opted for braces. Do you wear a retainer now? I wonder if that will close those spaces.

#3 Post by **TheUnk311** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:49 am

I have a couple of these in my lowers. They only appeared after my teeth were straightened, I guess it was the crookedness that caused them in the first place. I could see how they might bother me if my uppers had them. My only issue with mine is that they seem to make a nice home for tartar ><

#4 Post by **merrily** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:23 pm

I wasn't going to post pictures of my black triangles, as I didn't want to scare anyone off braces, but here is a picture of how bad mine look. (I am not saying that braces caused my bone loss, but I do sort of think they exacerbated the problem, in my case, anyway.) I am probably going to get surgery to try to mitigate my bone loss, since my case is so extreme. I bet yours don't look as bad as mine.

http://www.mypicshare.com/h879p4qupic.html

Website · #5 Post by **alexa** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:19 am

I hate the black triangles...between them and the spaces in between my molars, I'm still having to check my teeth when eating broccoli.

#6 Post by **dubnobass** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:46 am

I wouldn't panic too much. It's always possible that your pre-treatment teeth were crowded/crooked enough for it not to have been physically possible to develop 'normal' gums between the teeth, and now that they're straight, gaps have appeared.

This is certainly the case with me. Definitely wouldn't hurt to talk to a dentist, though.

#7 Post by **sjsarre** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:41 pm

My Ortho mentioned the same dubnobass.. My teeth were extremely crowded. I've got a couple of small triangles but i've been quite lucky. However I will still have a couple of mm gap where i've had teeth extracted to make room. Nothing that can be done about that!! However my Ortho is confident that my molars will move forward slightly over the next 5+ years and probably close the gaps up!

#8 Post by **dubnobass** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:37 am

Just thought I'd post an interesting observation on this...

Since my lower teeth were straightened, I developed little black triangles between my lower 6 teeth. From 'before' photos, I know this is not necessarily due to gum recession, as there were no little black triangles when they were crooked.

I recently had jaw surgery which means cleaning my teeth morning, evening and after everything I ever eat/drink (with a soft toothbrush), plus rinsing my mouth 4X a day with chlorhexidine/Corsodyl mouthwash, to keep the suture sites clean and infection-free. I don't floss, never have, never will. Don't nag me, I'm not changing

1 month post-op, my little black triangles have almost gone completely. I don't know if this is post-op gingival hyperplasia, due to more cleaning, or due to the mouthwash.. but I would suggest that it might be worth a try to step up your cleaning/mouthwash routine to 5-6 times daily.

I'd be really interested to know if anyone else notices a difference when they do this.

#9 Post by **payoki** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:39 am

Dubnobass,
why do you not floss?
do you think it can contribute to the gaps?
my hubby never flosses and when he goes for a check up, the doctor tells my hubby what a healthy mouth he has...he's had one filling in all his life.
hmmm....

#10 Post by **tdc03** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:59 am

I guess I cannot get IPR done now? I have a permanent retainer where that black triangle is on the upper.

Why didn't my ortho tell me about this when I asked him about it so many times?!!!!

I did have some gum receeding on that side, but couldn't he have told me about this procedure? Especially when the hygenist said that was how my tooth was shaped?

ugh.

Meryaten wrote:Karen, I think you mean IPR (interproximal reduction - sometimes referred to as tooth shaving or slenderising) not RPE

Here's a pic that may help explain those black triangles - technically called the embrasure.

As Karen noted, I've also heard that sometimes the interdental papillae may "bounce back" a bit after the braces are removed. But whether the triangle is entirely eliminated will also depend on its size to begin with.

#11 Post by **Bluerain** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:09 pm

I had it on bottom and asked doc to intrude my lowers more as they were on the long side . They intruded them with a little shaving (IPR) and all good for now.

Now trying to do the same with the top by intruding them using mini implants to help pull teeth into bone.

I had severe crowding on top but not so bad on bottom and never had spaces . After i had root planing (Deep cleaning ) they showed up. But they said that's normal because now there isn't any matter under there to swell up the gums which cover the black triangles.

Blue

#12 Post by **LadyTr0uble** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:17 am

I also have a black triangle where the extracted incisor used to be. My ortho had mentioned a procedure where he would take a little tissue from the roof of my mouth and "transplant" it onto the black triangle. I don't think I am to go through with it, as it sounds like it is going to hurt (funny coming from someone who didn't let braes bother her one bit... okay not very much...), especially since it is not visible when I smile.... might want to look into that if it bothers you?

#13 Post by **LadyTr0uble** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:08 am

THanks again for the 411, Meryaten! I will have to look into it... I've gone all this way to have healthier teeth, of course, but a prettier smile! .. If it's not unbearable, it might be something worth looking into?!?! The whitening is a must at this point... let's see what happens when the time comes...