combatting my bad genes with science
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combatting my bad genes with science
Whenever I get bad news from a dr about some new medical problem, I always call my mom and thank her for contributing her awful genes.
I know that sounds terrible, but I've watched my mother slowly deteriorate since I was in preschool, being subjected to surgery after surgery. The poor woman doesn't have any of her non-essential organs left. The scary thing is, that a lot of the things that have gone wrong with her are now slowly starting to go wrong with me.
I thought that I had dodged the bad teeth bullet. I've always had really straight, really strong teeth -- never any cavities! My mom's teeth were always awful, she had braces forever when I was a kid, culminating in jaw surgery for a massive overbite. Afterward, she got an infection and almost died due to improper post-op care. However, she pulled through and was so happy to finally have a chin.
Fast forward to me being 13 and going to the orthodontist for a very slight overlap of my front teeth that was driving me insane. The ortho told us that I had a pretty bad overbite, but I was too old to fix it with appliances. This came as a shock to both of us because I'd always had a prominent chin and I really had no idea there was anything wrong with my bite. According to him, my only choice was to have the same surgery that almost killed my mother. She flat-out refused to let me go through that, even after the ortho told us that without the surgery my anterior bottom teeth would tilt forward to close the gap until they destabilized and I risked losing them. So i wore braces for 9 months to correct the slight crowding on my upper jaw, my lower jaw remain untouched.
In my early 20s (sorry guys, but it makes me feel so old that i actually can say that now), my wisdom teeth started to come in. The 2 on top began to erupt and weren't really disturbing anything, but the one on bottom became impacted and squeezed the nerve in my jaw, causing part of my face to go numb. Funnily enough, I naturally only had 3 wisdom teeth, which made the necessarily extraction a bit easier. Sadly, the impacted tooth had caused my right 2nd molar to tilt so the biting surface was angled in toward my tongue, making brushing it properly a bit difficult.
Since then, my bottom teeth have done exactly what my childhood ortho predicted. They are tilting outward and starting to splay to try to close the gap in my bite. Luckily, I finally landed a job with ridiculous dental insurance, complete with adult orthodontic coverage. I headed off to the ortho last monday to get this sorted once and for all.
I was told that I had two options: one being the jaw surgery that i was, frankly, terrified of; and the other being to have 2 top teeth extracted and everything on the top pulled back to meet the bottom, which was somehow even less appealing than someone breaking my jaw and wiring it shut for a week, especially after I was cautioned that my overbite was bad enough that the extractions might not even work.
I realized then that I should really just grow a pair and get the surgery because this overbite isn't going to magically get better on its own. After agreeing to the course of treatment, including the surgery they worked me in for a same-day records appointment complete with spacers. When I had my first set of braces, I never had spacers. They have been an interesting experience to say the least. They hurt so much more than I remember braces hurting. I'm hoping that my pain tolerance hasn't just dropped in the past 15 years, or i unwittingly signed myself up for 2 years of hell.
I go in on tuesday to get a full set, upper and lower. This is my first time getting brackets on the lower teeth. I also find it strange that I'm getting brackets on the upper teeth, as they are perfectly straight. I suppose it has something to do with the later wiring shut of my jaw? Also, can I just say that i'm terrified and feel a little sick everytime I think about this impending jaw surgery, even though it's a year away? ugh
Anyways, that's my story thus far! I'm glad I found this forum, I've already gotten tons of great information from it!
I know that sounds terrible, but I've watched my mother slowly deteriorate since I was in preschool, being subjected to surgery after surgery. The poor woman doesn't have any of her non-essential organs left. The scary thing is, that a lot of the things that have gone wrong with her are now slowly starting to go wrong with me.
I thought that I had dodged the bad teeth bullet. I've always had really straight, really strong teeth -- never any cavities! My mom's teeth were always awful, she had braces forever when I was a kid, culminating in jaw surgery for a massive overbite. Afterward, she got an infection and almost died due to improper post-op care. However, she pulled through and was so happy to finally have a chin.
Fast forward to me being 13 and going to the orthodontist for a very slight overlap of my front teeth that was driving me insane. The ortho told us that I had a pretty bad overbite, but I was too old to fix it with appliances. This came as a shock to both of us because I'd always had a prominent chin and I really had no idea there was anything wrong with my bite. According to him, my only choice was to have the same surgery that almost killed my mother. She flat-out refused to let me go through that, even after the ortho told us that without the surgery my anterior bottom teeth would tilt forward to close the gap until they destabilized and I risked losing them. So i wore braces for 9 months to correct the slight crowding on my upper jaw, my lower jaw remain untouched.
In my early 20s (sorry guys, but it makes me feel so old that i actually can say that now), my wisdom teeth started to come in. The 2 on top began to erupt and weren't really disturbing anything, but the one on bottom became impacted and squeezed the nerve in my jaw, causing part of my face to go numb. Funnily enough, I naturally only had 3 wisdom teeth, which made the necessarily extraction a bit easier. Sadly, the impacted tooth had caused my right 2nd molar to tilt so the biting surface was angled in toward my tongue, making brushing it properly a bit difficult.
Since then, my bottom teeth have done exactly what my childhood ortho predicted. They are tilting outward and starting to splay to try to close the gap in my bite. Luckily, I finally landed a job with ridiculous dental insurance, complete with adult orthodontic coverage. I headed off to the ortho last monday to get this sorted once and for all.
I was told that I had two options: one being the jaw surgery that i was, frankly, terrified of; and the other being to have 2 top teeth extracted and everything on the top pulled back to meet the bottom, which was somehow even less appealing than someone breaking my jaw and wiring it shut for a week, especially after I was cautioned that my overbite was bad enough that the extractions might not even work.
I realized then that I should really just grow a pair and get the surgery because this overbite isn't going to magically get better on its own. After agreeing to the course of treatment, including the surgery they worked me in for a same-day records appointment complete with spacers. When I had my first set of braces, I never had spacers. They have been an interesting experience to say the least. They hurt so much more than I remember braces hurting. I'm hoping that my pain tolerance hasn't just dropped in the past 15 years, or i unwittingly signed myself up for 2 years of hell.
I go in on tuesday to get a full set, upper and lower. This is my first time getting brackets on the lower teeth. I also find it strange that I'm getting brackets on the upper teeth, as they are perfectly straight. I suppose it has something to do with the later wiring shut of my jaw? Also, can I just say that i'm terrified and feel a little sick everytime I think about this impending jaw surgery, even though it's a year away? ugh
Anyways, that's my story thus far! I'm glad I found this forum, I've already gotten tons of great information from it!
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Wow Fuzz, that's a lot to take in from one post. I think it's very courageous of you to tackle this and run with it. Kudos to you. Keep us posted on your progress.
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ha! yeah, i got a little verbose with my intro post.... thanks for wading through it!
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Hey fuzzydecay Im sure everything will work out just fine. When its all said and done you will have an beautiful smile.
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So I'm 24 hours braced at this point.
Observations: this is a lot different than when i had them as a child. My upper lip has brace memory and is toughened up, but the sensation of the brackets on my lower teeth is super weird. However, my overbite is so bad that the bottom brackets don't really touch a lot of lip so it's manageable. It's really weird to have brackets back on the top because those teeth are already very straight from the last bracing. I'm a little bitter about that, actually.
My face looks EXACTLY the same as it did when i was 12 and had braces the first time. I'm literally a bad haircut away from going 15 years back in time. I already had people in my office sincerely asking me who's child i was during "bring your child to work" day. I can only imagine how worse that's going to get. No one is ever going to take me seriously.
Having brackets on the bottom makes it so i can't bite down fully. if i bite down normally, my top teeth hit the brackets leaving a rather sizeable gap. If i move my jaw so my overbite is worse, i can get closer to closing but still not all the way. This is making eating VERY difficult. I played it safe with yogurt, pudding, and a cupcake for my first post-brace meal. However, my dinner of ravioli was disaster. I think i picked a full ravioli out from under my archwire
my brackets from the bicuspids back all have hooks on them. I'm assuming that's for when my jaw is wired shut after surgery. It kind of sucks to have a constant reminder of how bad my life is going to suck for a few weeks next year. I also have buccal tubes on the top back bands, which is worrisome. Oh! And I have cleats on the inside of all 4 of my bands, which are tearing my tongue to shreds. This is a completely new experience as last time, i only had regular brackets with no fancy hooks or tubes -- and certainly no bands. Having stuff invading my tongue's resting area is very obnoxious.
This morning I realized that i'm not sleeping with my mouth fully closed, as my mouth felt almost as dry as it did after having the brackets placed.
Brushing with brackets on top and bottom is a lot different than with brackets just on top. I ended up getting toothpaste all over my skirt this morning (not my proudest moment).
I can definitely feel my teeth loose and moving. They don't seem very sore, but I can't really bite down and test it.
Observations: this is a lot different than when i had them as a child. My upper lip has brace memory and is toughened up, but the sensation of the brackets on my lower teeth is super weird. However, my overbite is so bad that the bottom brackets don't really touch a lot of lip so it's manageable. It's really weird to have brackets back on the top because those teeth are already very straight from the last bracing. I'm a little bitter about that, actually.
My face looks EXACTLY the same as it did when i was 12 and had braces the first time. I'm literally a bad haircut away from going 15 years back in time. I already had people in my office sincerely asking me who's child i was during "bring your child to work" day. I can only imagine how worse that's going to get. No one is ever going to take me seriously.
Having brackets on the bottom makes it so i can't bite down fully. if i bite down normally, my top teeth hit the brackets leaving a rather sizeable gap. If i move my jaw so my overbite is worse, i can get closer to closing but still not all the way. This is making eating VERY difficult. I played it safe with yogurt, pudding, and a cupcake for my first post-brace meal. However, my dinner of ravioli was disaster. I think i picked a full ravioli out from under my archwire
my brackets from the bicuspids back all have hooks on them. I'm assuming that's for when my jaw is wired shut after surgery. It kind of sucks to have a constant reminder of how bad my life is going to suck for a few weeks next year. I also have buccal tubes on the top back bands, which is worrisome. Oh! And I have cleats on the inside of all 4 of my bands, which are tearing my tongue to shreds. This is a completely new experience as last time, i only had regular brackets with no fancy hooks or tubes -- and certainly no bands. Having stuff invading my tongue's resting area is very obnoxious.
This morning I realized that i'm not sleeping with my mouth fully closed, as my mouth felt almost as dry as it did after having the brackets placed.
Brushing with brackets on top and bottom is a lot different than with brackets just on top. I ended up getting toothpaste all over my skirt this morning (not my proudest moment).
I can definitely feel my teeth loose and moving. They don't seem very sore, but I can't really bite down and test it.
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I find that pretty much everything gets caught under the archwire...so I always give it a few good swishes of water after eating whether or not I plan on brushing.
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Hey fuzz,
Wow, that is quite a story...and I was feeling sorry for myself about mine...ya, I have the lingual cleats--they do tear up your tongue--and it makes it hard for me to talk at work! Today I would start to talk, and involuntarily go "OW!"--then have to explain it...but it has taken me nearly 7 weeks to have the cleats bother me. Yup, I have the elastics hooks and the buccal tubes, and other hooks that I have no idea about...
I do know I will be getting the forsus later this year--which is basically permanent metal springs to replace elastics. After seeing them on youtube, I really do not want them!!! But I know that is why I have so many tubes and hooks etc...
I hate to say this, but if your top teeth are hitting your bottom brackets, that is not a good thing. Your top teeth can get chipped. They usually use bite turbos on the back of your top 2 front teeth so that doesn't happen...
Surgery sounds like a real expensive drag...what are they planning to do in the surgery?
Well, I am still thankful I have been able to get braces, and I am getting more and more used to them...I hope you will be able to say the same!!!
Wow, that is quite a story...and I was feeling sorry for myself about mine...ya, I have the lingual cleats--they do tear up your tongue--and it makes it hard for me to talk at work! Today I would start to talk, and involuntarily go "OW!"--then have to explain it...but it has taken me nearly 7 weeks to have the cleats bother me. Yup, I have the elastics hooks and the buccal tubes, and other hooks that I have no idea about...
I do know I will be getting the forsus later this year--which is basically permanent metal springs to replace elastics. After seeing them on youtube, I really do not want them!!! But I know that is why I have so many tubes and hooks etc...
I hate to say this, but if your top teeth are hitting your bottom brackets, that is not a good thing. Your top teeth can get chipped. They usually use bite turbos on the back of your top 2 front teeth so that doesn't happen...
Surgery sounds like a real expensive drag...what are they planning to do in the surgery?
Well, I am still thankful I have been able to get braces, and I am getting more and more used to them...I hope you will be able to say the same!!!
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Congrats and good luck, I hope all goes well and post progress photos....we all love to see those.
My story in this forum:
http://www.archwired.com/phpbb2/viewtop ... =9&t=38942
Braced: 4/7/2011
Metal Upper & Lower
Sentence: 18-24 months
Removal Date: 9/4/13
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it's certainly been a while! I just had my first adjustment at 6 weeks. my overjet has gone from 7mm to 8mm, which is a positive movement. My ortho said my overjet will probably end up to be between 10 and 12mm once my bottom teeth are pulled fully back. Then it will be time for the surgery.
Another positive development: she decided that she is going to fix the back molar that was tilted by my wisdom tooth coming in. Bad news is that i'm in spacers again for 2 weeks until i can get in to put the bands on. I'm not sure if it's because of how far back the spacers are, but they don't hurt nearly as much as round 1 did.
I also have some progress pics that are being posted shortly
Another positive development: she decided that she is going to fix the back molar that was tilted by my wisdom tooth coming in. Bad news is that i'm in spacers again for 2 weeks until i can get in to put the bands on. I'm not sure if it's because of how far back the spacers are, but they don't hurt nearly as much as round 1 did.
I also have some progress pics that are being posted shortly
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pre-braces:
looks okay from the front
not so much from the side
spacers and a gap in my lower incisors, it's hard to tell the tilt though
the top arch
bracketing day:
the little hooks that hoard food. i've gotten confirmation that these are indeed how my jaw will be wired shut.
the cleat that is still eating my tongue alive
wax is my friend
looks okay from the front
not so much from the side
spacers and a gap in my lower incisors, it's hard to tell the tilt though
the top arch
bracketing day:
the little hooks that hoard food. i've gotten confirmation that these are indeed how my jaw will be wired shut.
the cleat that is still eating my tongue alive
wax is my friend
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Here I am at 3 weeks. At this point, i'd noticed a bit of wire sticking out from the back of my back bracket on the left bottom. At my next appointment, I got confirmation that it was from my teeth shifting about 1mm.
These were taken right after a family wedding. I was a bit apprehensive about ruining all the pictures I was in, but you couldn't even see my braces in the family shots since the photographer was so far away.
These were taken right after a family wedding. I was a bit apprehensive about ruining all the pictures I was in, but you couldn't even see my braces in the family shots since the photographer was so far away.