Invisagirl's Invisalign to Braces story (Updated 12/2!!)

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Invisagirl's Invisalign to Braces story (Updated 12/2!!)

#1 Post by invisagirl »

15 days left until I get braces. I cannot believe I'm doing this! Its funny cause I never thought I could have so many conflicting feelings about something. I feel excited, anxious, and scared all at the same time. I guess before I go too far maybe I should fill any readers I have in on the background, so here it is:

A long, long time ago in a land far away (just kidding)... When I became a teenager it became clear that I had some orthodontic issues. The only visable clue was that my canine teeth stuck out but of course that's caused by bigger issues. My parents were willing to pay to have orthodontic work done but they were scared I wouldn't take care of my teeth during that time so in order for them to pay, I had to show them I really want to do it. Well, I was an overweight unpopular kid and that last thing I needed was to stand out even more. I was vaguely interested in getting my teeth fixed but orthodontics became a taboo subject to me so there was no way I'd bring the issue up. Anyway the situation was tolerable except for when I'd be babysitting and a kid would ask why my one canine stuck out so far.

Flash forward to life in the working world (when I had gained more self confidence by losing 4o pounds) when the Invisalign option first became available. Invisalign intrigued me so I made a consultation app with an ortho near my office. Well orthodontics was still a taboo thing to me so this was a huge step for me. When I was at the consultation the nurse was telling me how she was always embarassed by her teeth and hide her mouth with her hand when smiling, and all I could think of was "That's not me!". When the ortho came in he took a brief look and told me I had two options: One was jaw surgery which the nurse then told me would leave me with the cutest little dimples (what?!?) or the second option was to pull the premolars. Well the ortho showed me a film of what my teeth would do if I did the extractions route and all I remember was there was a point where my front teeth would stick straight out and that was when I decided I didn't want to fix my teeth that badly. From then on the idea of fixing my teeth would pop up in my mind every so often but I thought the only way I'd fix it would be after I had a child if I could stay out of work for two years so no one would see me.

Anyway life went on like it always does for a few years until I met an adult at work that was going through orthodontia. He was in the middle of his treatment, preparing for jaw surgery. While we were working one day alone he started talking about his braces and I felt safe enough to tell him about my consultation experience (I hadn't told anyone about it till then). He was a great listener and gave the required WTF expressions when appropriate. From then on I became his listening post,encouragement person,etc.

A year after meeting my friend my wisdom teeth started giving me problems so I decided to have them taken out. Once they were out I thought that I might as well see the ortho that advertises Invisalign all the time in my area and see if since I had more room in my mouth now (my wisdom teeth had fully erupted) if Invisalign was an option now. Well sure enough he said that although my case would take awhile I was definetly a candidate. So at the consultation I had the molds done and got a script to have the xrays taken. At this point I was still unsure in my mind if Invisalign would except me so I decided to go with the flow and see what happened. In February 2003 my aligners came in and I was prescribed 51 upper aligners and 8 lower aligners.

Everything went along smoothly for a year when the aligners kind of stopped fitting so nicely. I could tell my teeth were still moving but to me I couldn't see how there was anyway for the aligners to fit perfectly. After six months of the ortho telling me my teeth were being stubborn and trying everything under the sun to make the aligners fit right I had a long conversation with him. When he logged into the Invisalign site to show me were my teeth should of be given the aligner I was in he took a look at my mouth and realizing I had been right did new impression right then. In August 2004 I got my refinement set which prescribed 31 aligners for my upper jaw (my lower jaw had been finished the previous year).

The refinement set worked perfectly until three months ago. In the beginning my lateral incisiors couldn't move because there wasn't enough room. After two rounds of IPR they had plenty of room but things just didn't seem right to me. One incisor speedbump fit perfectly in the speedbump slot but there was still 1/2 mm left before the tooth would fit perfectly in the aligner. On the other side the speedbump for the lateral wasn't even close to the speedbump slot and I couldn't understand how it would get there. At this time I started searching the internet for information on invisalign and braces because I had reservations about doing another revision with Invisalign and wanted to know what my options were. I found archwired and reading peoples posts started to give me the encouragement I needed that braces weren't awful and that plenty of adults go through treatment all the time. Well I told my ortho about my Invisalign doubts and how I didn't mind finishing my treatment with braces (at my cost even) and at first he was lukewarm to the idea but after awhile he just flat out said no. At that point I wasn't the happiest camper but I was o.k. with it none the less.

Two weeks ago I had my eyes opened by my dental hygienst when she commented on how only two of my molars (one on each side) touch my molars on the bottom arch (Invisalign finished moving my molars before the refinement). I'd noticed that awhile back but forgot about it and never brought it up with the ortho. Well the hygienst (who I happen to trust a lot more than my ortho) was really upset by this and started telling me that I really consider dumping my ortho. Taking her advice I set up a consult with another ortho who confirmed that the situation wasn't right in many ways. Deciding to give the first ortho one last chance, when I was in his office last week I brought the molar subject up with him and he refused to look at my bite. He brought my invisalign movie up and even when it showed that my molars were long done moving, he told me it was no big deal that they didn't meet. I left his office last week knowing that by leaving his practice I was doing what was best for me!!!! (The other ortho is actually in the same building as the old one so right after I left the old orthos office I popped in to the new ones office and told them I want to get things started).

So that's basically what has brought me to my braces journey. I don't blame Invisalign for the problems I had since its really the orthos job to make sure everything is going along smoothly. I'm excited to get my treatment moving again yet some of the orthodontics taboo thing I suffered from earlier in my life is still with me. When I was having my molds done the ortho came by and asked if I'd decided to become a braceface this time, and I almost wanted to disappear. I know she meant nothing by the comment but its going to take some getting used to to become completely comfortable with braces. Overall I'm excited but the anxiety of not knowing what is in store for the next 15 months is killing me! Not only that but my fall grad class starts the day I get braces and that weekend I'm doing an expo to promote my side business. I figure after that weekend is over I will have completely introduced my braces to the world!!! I'm a little scared what people at work will say but one of the high ups just got braces so at least there used to someone in the group getting braces (he was the one who recommended the new ortho).

Anyway just thought I'd share my story and after writing this all down I'm a little less anxious (for now anyway) 8)

Before I forget here are the all important before invisalign teeth picture and before braces picture!

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Last edited by invisagirl on Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:30 am, edited 3 times in total.
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2.6 years (30 months) with Invisalign plus 19 months 2 weeks with metal braces to achieve the perfect smile.

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#2 Post by blondie »

wow! I think you made the right decision and will be so much happier in the long run deciding to take the braces route. And your ortho! - I think some invisalign othos are stubbern about giving up a patient to braces.

Your anxiety about wearing braces will lessen everyday. I was seriously shaking when I returned to school with braces (i'm 27 and attend college also) but nobody said anything because they didn't care. And one other student/friend said she was thinkin about braces to fix her front gap. Now after a month I don't give it a second thought because I really don't care anymore. And I'm sure your treatment plan won't be long at all, your teeth already look great!

So take the plunge, you'll be fine!

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#3 Post by invisagirl »

Hi Blonde,
Thanks for the encouragement!! I think the waiting is probably the worst part, I'm just not good at being patient! I can't wait though to dabble in lig colors. I've decided I'll start with light pink and go from there. After all I have to have some fun with this!! I was almost going to go with blue and silver because my 10 yr high school reunion is labor day weekend and that was the schools colors. I decided though I'm not that brave to use two color ligs yet.
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#4 Post by lesley »

Wow your teeth look so much better! I am very impressed that so many people are willing to go to braces after. I told my ortho that I would not do so and would be very happy with a 90% fix. He claimed that's what he could do and then the choice would be mine.
Good luck!!!!!

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#5 Post by blondie »

colors are fun! I actually started with blue colors and it turned out pretty cool and next week I'm in for an adjustment and was thinking pink! Keep us updated how your braces are coming along, even how it was getting them on!

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#6 Post by invisagirl »

hey lesley,

I never would of thought that I'd go for the braces route but here I am. At this point I really want to finish and my new ortho told me it would take 9 months to get to the point Invisalign would of ended at (probably would of had at least a year left if I'd gotten a revision plus the time waiting for the aligners to come in) or I could get everything all squared away and it would take 15 months. Originally I was leaning toward the 9 month plan but when I really started thinking about it I decided I might as well get everything taken care of cause really after 9 months in braces what is 6 more??

One of the big deciding factors for me was the fact that if I did another revision I'm sure all my front teeth would of ended up with speedbumps (currently my two front teeth are speedbumpless). So basically it'd be like having ceramic braces except having an aligner instead of a wire. If having a wiring will reduce treatment by 50% I figured it'd be worth it. After 2.6 years I just want to be done!
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#7 Post by invisagirl »

Hmmm tough question Meryaten. I think my answer is Yes and No.

With my original aligner set the speedbumps I had on the upper arch were on the first molar and premolar so basically no one could see them so the aligners were really "invisable" unless you got supper close. When I had the revision I got 4 more (total) speedbumps on the canine and the lateral incisor. Not so invisable anymore. That was the first time I wondered what the point was. Of course one of the speedbumps on the lateral just looked more obvious in the aligner than the other one so with my handy metal dental pick it suddenly fell off and they had to reattach it :wink: Once reattached it looked MUCH better. When things started to go south I thought long and hard about everything and decided having to deal with the front teeth having speedbumps for longer than braces would last wasn't worth it for me (my old ortho also had a blown up picture in his office of some unfortunite soul who had speedbumps on every upper tooth). When I decided to find a new ortho I had a consult with one ortho who said I'd have to have teeth pulled and it would take 2 years to complete my case. Then I really felt like my 2.6 years in Invisalign was for nothing. Thankfully the one I chose says it'll be a max 15 months with no extractions (although I'm telling myself 18 months so I'm not too disappointed if 15 months comes and goes w/o removal). I'm having new xrays taken tomorrow so hopefully nothing surprising will be found (like my roots didn't move or something).

I say no to your question because I don't think I would of started (or at least when I was 26) this journey had Invisalign not been an option. Even if the ortho had said I could use Invisalign and finish in braces I probably would of said no. So I guess I did need invisalign to prepare me.

I think my greatest regret is going with the ortho I started with. A month into treatment I'd seen him enough to know what a jerk he was and I felt sorry for the patients that had to deal with him more than I did. I always dreaded appointments but when things were going well I only saw him for at most a minute so I could handle it. When Invisalign went off course the first time he was so unhelpful that I basically was dimpling my own aligners and such. The only reason I got the first revision was because I had it one day and went off on him. Over the last year the dr-patient relationship improved a 100% but I never trusted him so I think that's why I suck it out with Invisalign as long as I did. I think had I had a better ortho I probably would of switched to braces sooner and it wouldn't of been a big deal. My old ortho just wanted to finish everyone with Invisalign regardless of the outcome. Oh well its all good in the end.

I see the old ortho on Friday to have an exit appointment and get some portion of my money back. Should be interesting.

Gee I rambled, did I answer your question?? I think I'll know the answer for sure once the xrays come back. I'm just hoping nothing bad is found. Otherwise I am glad I went the route I did (I think :wink: )
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#8 Post by lesley »

Reading your reply makes me kind of nervous about invisalign. As of now, I have speed bumps on my bottom teeth.

The ortho never said a word to me about them until I was in the chair - I originally thought it was just a coat of some dental stuff that would not stick out.

When I first saw the bottom, I was a bit shocked - I mean they are supposed to be totally invisible. I went to the ortho today and found out in month 8 I have to hvae speedbumps put on my 2 front teeth - I am dreading this...especially after reading your post! I really think it makes them not invisible - I haven't seen any (only the bottoms on my own), but AHHH!

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#9 Post by invisagirl »

Hey lesley -

Don't worry too much. If you only have to have the two upper front teeth speedbumped it shouldn't be too bad. In my before braces picture above you can hardley see the speedbumps on the lateral incisors. Without my aligner on there completely invisable unless you look really close. When I have the aligner in the lateral incisor speedbumps are more visable (to me) because those teeth don't fit in the aligner completely so it already looks "off". I think if the aligners are fitting correctly no one will notice unless they are standing right in front of you. It seems when someone is like right in my face that is when they ask about it.

To me it was like if every tooth on my upper arch was going to have a speedbump what's the point? When I first started Invisalign I was hoping for no speedbumps and was really disappointed when I ended up with 4 on the bottom and on top. They weren't bad at all, it was just I wasn't expecting them. When the revision happened I thought I would be good with the current speedbumps I had and when I went to pick up the new aligners and they told me I was getting 4 more speedbumps I was kind-of upset. I guess I might of handled it better had I been warned or something. I do have to say that getting the extra speedbumps was much better than before the revision when the aligner didn't fit the front teeth right so the aligner hung about a 1mm below the teeth. I'm not telling you this to scare you but to let you know that if that happens to you its not right and become a pain in your orthos side until he fixs it!!!

I think the moral of the story is if the aligners start to become really visable starts bugging your ortho because it means something is not right!!!
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#10 Post by lesley »

Hi again,
Ya I know what you mean - I think it is about being surprised with all of this. I didn't know I had to get any more speedbumps so I asked at my apt...and was told I needed 4 more. Where exactly I don't know, but I asked if I needed on my front and he said yes.

My ortho is great - very nice and all and lots of success with invisalign. I guess I was just upset that I was not informed about the speedbumps or the filing - they should tell you about it on the website too....

Guess I will have to suck it up! I read on here that a woman was upset she had to hvae speedbumps so she got invisalign to change her entire process and do it without. I guess it takes longer wiht them? But if they can do it without, invisalign should give u the option.

Also, I have started reading about orthoclear - anyone have it/hear about it? Supposedly, they have no speedbumps.

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#11 Post by lesley »

Hi again,
Ya I know what you mean - I think it is about being surprised with all of this. I didn't know I had to get any more speedbumps so I asked at my apt...and was told I needed 4 more. Where exactly I don't know, but I asked if I needed on my front and he said yes.

My ortho is great - very nice and all and lots of success with invisalign. I guess I was just upset that I was not informed about the speedbumps or the filing - they should tell you about it on the website too....

Guess I will have to suck it up! I read on here that a woman was upset she had to hvae speedbumps so she got invisalign to change her entire process and do it without. I guess it takes longer wiht them? But if they can do it without, invisalign should give u the option.

Also, I have started reading about orthoclear - anyone have it/hear about it? Supposedly, they have no speedbumps.

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#12 Post by invisagirl »

I think the orthos don't tell us about speedbumps and such because they figure its no big deal for them so it should be no big deal for us! I wish they'd learn it is a deal for us.

I thought I read OrthoClear did use speedbumps but where the speedbumps are the aligner is supposed to be cut away so that the speedbumps kind of stick outside of the aligner. Maybe I dreamed it. It will be interesting to see how OrthoClear develops. I went to there website and there was only one provider in my area.

I can see in my case why the speedbumps were needed I just wish they would of told me. Since my lateral incisors were squished against the canines I don't know how Invisalign could of moved them without something attached to grab onto. An interesting observation though was one of the speedbumps on the bottom was attached to a crown so when it fell off the ortho said it wasn't worth re-attaching. Didn't affect my treatment at all. Hmmmm. :roll:
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#13 Post by marcTO »

what is the substance they use to apply speedbumps is it just glue? or?
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#14 Post by invisagirl »

they use the same supplies to glue speedbumps on as they do to glue brackets on.
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#15 Post by invisagirl »

I only have a day and a half until I go for my "treatment consultation"!! I guess they use this appointment to inform you if anything in the plan has changed since the ortho has gotten to study the xrays and molds. This is also when they'll put in spacers. I'm interested to see what the spacers will be like compared to being in Invisalign all this time. Then in exactly one week the big journey begins!!

I know there will be a lot to get used to but I'm trying to focus on the positives. It will be nice not having to run to the bathroom to take out my aligner before eating or rushing through a meal so that I can get the aligner back in. I figure brushing wise will be similar but flossing is not going to be fun. I currently floss after every meal but I don't think that will be feasible with braces. Also I'm really sad that I'll have to give up my super thick floss. I figure it will be too much of a pain to thread and unthread it between the teeth/wire/etc so I bought a bunch of ortho floss. Bye, bye thick floss I'll miss you :cry:

All in all everything is ready to go. I'm just looking forward to Thursday to get the show on the road (it'll be so nice to actually be making progress again!!!)
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2.6 years (30 months) with Invisalign plus 19 months 2 weeks with metal braces to achieve the perfect smile.

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