Slime, slime, slime. What the heck???

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#1 Post by **Kat** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:55 am

Anyone have this happen as well?
I keep a real clean mouth BUT when I use my Listerine mouthwash and my Crest whitening tooth paste I get this really stretchy icky slime like clear stuff all in my mouth after about 10-15 minutes.
Is it just the crest products?
Anyone?

#2 Post by **babykitten75** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:21 am

HIKat

I think I have noticed the same slimy white stuff that you're talking about. I noticed it after using Listerine. It's as if the stuff is the skin inside my mouth shedding off because I could take a kleenex and wipe if off the inside my cheeks and lips. I stopped using Listerine and it doesn't happen half as much

#3 Post by **trublu22** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:35 am

Hi Everyone! I'm new to the board, I've been braced for almost a month (it'll be 1mo on 10/11).

I have the same problem and it is driving me nuts. I've tried rinsing, then brushing and brushing then rinsing but nothing changes. I happens most when I use Crest Pro Health rinse. I've tried using Listerine once since I've been braced and haven't had this issue, maybe I should switch up.

Ugh, this make the whole brushing routine even longer because I have to check every morning before I leave for work.

Why does this even happen? Anyone else experience it?

#4 Post by **rmwolf83** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:48 am

I can't use my Crest ProHealth mouthwash anymore. It leaves this funky blue residue all over my braces and it's a pain to get off. It's like stringy and gunky at the same time. I haven't found anything to replace it yet...I've just been using my fluoride rinse for the time being.

~Rachel~

#5 Post by **trublu22** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:55 am

I can't use my Crest ProHealth mouthwash anymore. It leaves this funky blue residue all over my braces and it's a pain to get off. It's like stringy and gunky at the same time. I haven't found anything to replace it yet...I've just been using my fluoride rinse for the time being.

~Rachel~

that's another reason to stop using the Crest Pro Health. If I rinse before brushing, no problem because I can brush that blue off my brackets. But, lately, I've rinsed after brushing, so then I've gotta brush all over again. Its is truly a pain.

#6 Post by **Lisa65** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:03 am

Does either that Crest Pro rinse or the whitening toothpaste you describe - contain hydrogen peroxide?

If so, then it's that. When HP comes into contact with mouth tissue it reacts and produces oxygen bubbles, The resulting foamy stuff has a slimy feel to it. I'm not familiar with the chemistry so I can't tell you why it feels slimy.

I sometimes use dilute HP as a mouthwash (it helps to remove staining from teeth due to its mild bleaching properties) and I get the slime effect too. So I use that first, rinse with water and then brush my teeth and use a regular mouthwash.

Listerine can be a little harsh for some people as it contains a lot of alcohol. It's great for germ killing but can "burn" your mouth. I can't use mouthwashes containing alcohol and instead opted for an alcohol free variety.

#7 Post by **trublu22** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:32 am

Does either that Crest Pro rinse or the whitening toothpaste you describe - contain hydrogen peroxide?

If so, then it's that. When HP comes into contact with mouth tissue it reacts and produces oxygen bubbles, The resulting foamy stuff has a slimy feel to it. I'm not familiar with the chemistry so I can't tell you why it feels slimy.

^^ that's something i never knew. i'll check to see if hydrogen peroxide is in the Crest Pro rinse.

#8 Post by **schoolglue** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:06 pm

I've never noticed any slime in my mouth after using Listerine. I try to add a little water to it so it doesn't burn as badly. Maybe Colgate + Listerine get along better than the Crest + Listerine?

#9 Post by **xtrememkovr** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:59 pm

I had that stringy blue stuff, too, after using crest products. Hmmmm. I thought I was the only one but there was another post in regards to that somewhere around here...

Anyways - I use Listerine - and I have had no cases of that blue stringy stuff. I switch up toothpastes - so maybe I'll have an experiment and see what products are causing it. So far so good with the Listerine.
X.

#10 Post by **KriegeR** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:43 pm

I always used to get the same problem when I was using Listerine. I'd use the Listerine before setting off for work and there would be no problem. However just 30 minutes later I would have loads of this stuff shedding off my mouth. It hasn't happened since I changed to Oral B Fluoride rinse, so I assume that it's something in the Listerine, or Listerine is a bit too powerful.

#11 Post by **RabbleRouser** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:15 pm

Was it the "whitening expressions " crest? I had the same problem with this brand of tooth paste when used with the pro-health rinse . DDS said it was epitheleal tissue sloughing off. When I switched to Biotene mouthwash and a less caustic toothpaste, the problem diappeared.

#12 Post by **rsprouse** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:54 pm

^^ that's something i never knew. i'll check to see if hydrogen peroxide is in the Crest Pro rinse.

Crest Pro Health rinse does not contain any peroxide. The active ingredient is CPC. It basically attacks plaque and causes the cell membrane to breakdown and the plaque cells burst. The "clumps" that people are seeing on their teeth are accumulations of plaque getting caught on brackets. It is broken down so the plaque can no longer attack your teeth. So the "chunks" and "stringyness" may look bad but it is the rinse doing a good job at removing plaque that was left after brushing and/or flossing. As always, YMMV.

Regards,
Rory

#13 Post by **Lisa65** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:57 pm

We don't have Crest Pro rinse in te UK as far as I'm aware, but I use a generic mouthwash containing CPC and don't get the blue stuff.

I guess, going back to the original question, we are talking about a few different types of "slime" here.

1) hydrogen peroxide bubble slime
2) plaque slime caused by clumping of CPC containing mouthwash
3) epithilial slime caused by over-strong alcohol-based mouthwashes.

The cure depends on the cause I guess!

#14 Post by **rmwolf83** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:42 am

Crest Pro Health rinse does not contain any peroxide. The active ingredient is CPC. It basically attacks plaque and causes the cell membrane to breakdown and the plaque cells burst. The "clumps" that people are seeing on their teeth are accumulations of plaque getting caught on brackets. It is broken down so the plaque can no longer attack your teeth. So the "chunks" and "stringyness" may look bad but it is the rinse doing a good job at removing plaque that was left after brushing and/or flossing. As always, YMMV.

Regards,
Rory

That's really cool....I think I'll just put up with the stringiness! So, should I brush, floss, rinse with the Pro Health, then brush again? Any thoughts from anyone? Also, is it possible to overdo it with the fluoride rinses and toothpastes? My dentist gave me Prevident to use, but my teeth just don't feel clean after I use it. So I prefer to use my toothpaste of choice and then, since I need some sort of fluoride due to my decalcification, I use the Phos Flor rinse that my previous dentist recommended. Is one better than the other? It looks like the Phos Flor rinse has more fluoride in it than the Prevident. That doesn't make sense to me..... the rinse is OTC and the paste is an Rx. Any way, I usually use the rinse at night and the paste in the morning. Is that bad?

~Rachel~

#15 Post by **rsprouse** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:33 pm

That's really cool....I think I'll just put up with the stringiness! So, should I brush, floss, rinse with the Pro Health, then brush again? Any thoughts from anyone? Also, is it possible to overdo it with the fluoride rinses and toothpastes? My dentist gave me Prevident to use, but my teeth just don't feel clean after I use it. So I prefer to use my toothpaste of choice and then, since I need some sort of fluoride due to my decalcification, I use the Phos Flor rinse that my previous dentist recommended. Is one better than the other? It looks like the Phos Flor rinse has more fluoride in it than the Prevident. That doesn't make sense to me..... the rinse is OTC and the paste is an Rx. Any way, I usually use the rinse at night and the paste in the morning. Is that bad?

~Rachel~

Hi Rachel,

Once your teeth are developed you cannot overdue the fluoride intake as far as your teeth are concerned. There are other concerns for your GI tract so you should keep it in moderation. Prevident is 5000 ppm fluoride ion in a gel form, where as Phos Flur is sodium fluoride (4.4% I think?). It is just a different delivery system to get the fluoride to your teeth. Prevident probably doesn't make you feel clean as it doesn't really do much in the minty fresh taste department. It is doing a good job, it just doesn't feel like it. I personally Oral Health rinse in the AM before heading out the door and I Act right before bed. I also brush 4-5 times per day on average. Just my regime, YMMV. I would stick to the regime recommended by the Doc treating you.

Good Luck,
Rory