I never thought my teeth were that bad, just a bit crooked - turns out there was all sorts wrong with me! If it saves you a few grand, it can't hurt to investigate the free treatment route, surely?
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If money is an issue, you could ask your dentist (private or NHS) for a referral to an NHS orthodontist or dental teaching hospital. You may qualify for free treatment - I did, and am now coming to the end of my treatment after 2½ years in full metal braces and after surgery on both jaws. My treatment has not cost me a penny.
I never thought my teeth were that bad, just a bit crooked - turns out there was all sorts wrong with me! If it saves you a few grand, it can't hurt to investigate the free treatment route, surely?
I never thought my teeth were that bad, just a bit crooked - turns out there was all sorts wrong with me! If it saves you a few grand, it can't hurt to investigate the free treatment route, surely?
Braced May 2005
Bimaxillary surgery Aug 2007
Debraced Jun 2008
Bimaxillary surgery Aug 2007
Debraced Jun 2008
Could you elaborate please? Lip incompetency? The brace I had as a child didn't require me to have surgery and that was on the NHS so i'm not sure. I think I must be borderline or something.Meryaten wrote:I completely agree. With your chin and your overjet, you might well be a surgical candidate. Of course, it will depend on the size of the overjet, and what other factors are present of course. I'm not sure I don't see just a little lip incompetency there though.
Good luck to you.
From what I gater I need to save about £800 for the deposit then its about £130 monthly from then on in. If the treatment comes to £4000 does that mean the montly payements will be more or will it mean I will pay £130 monthly for a greater amount of time? I ask this because a £800 deposit is affordbale and monthly payements upto £200 are fine but anything above that is too much.
Another thing, I gather you need to pay for is the £60-£100 for them to determine what you need done. So obviously I dont want to go form dentist to dentist paying £100 a time to find the cheapest option, how do I go about finding the cheapest place in my area?
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Firstly, I'd get signed up to a regular dentist. If you're even thinking about braces then you need damn good hygeine and regular cleanings etc. Then ask your GD for 2 or 3 referals and go from there.
If the GD is not an option, pick the nearest 2 or 3 to you from either the internet or yellow pages. See what their advertising says re payments; costs etc.
It's hard to give rough ideas of figures etc, I was lucky to eventually get mine done on the NHS as an adult (after much persuading my GD to refer me to my local hospital) but i did have 3 private consults that ranged from £1900 to £3500 for the same work and they all were happy to tailor repayments to meet my needs to some degree or another.
If the GD is not an option, pick the nearest 2 or 3 to you from either the internet or yellow pages. See what their advertising says re payments; costs etc.
It's hard to give rough ideas of figures etc, I was lucky to eventually get mine done on the NHS as an adult (after much persuading my GD to refer me to my local hospital) but i did have 3 private consults that ranged from £1900 to £3500 for the same work and they all were happy to tailor repayments to meet my needs to some degree or another.
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I have a similar sort of profile to you, and surgery was presented to me as an option for treatment, but in the end I decided not to go that way because I was told that there'd be no significant benefits to having it instead of an extraction. So that might be an option for you as well.
As for finding my ortho, I was referred to him by my dentist. I was really happy with my initial consultation, but I still went for another opinion with an ortho that someone I knew was going to. I ended up going back to the first one, and have been happy with my treatment so far.
As for my payments, it's broken up into an initial instalment, and then equal smaller instalments every few months over the rest of the treatment period.
Good luck finding your orthodontist - do you have friends or colleagues who could recommend one to you, perhaps?
As for finding my ortho, I was referred to him by my dentist. I was really happy with my initial consultation, but I still went for another opinion with an ortho that someone I knew was going to. I ended up going back to the first one, and have been happy with my treatment so far.
As for my payments, it's broken up into an initial instalment, and then equal smaller instalments every few months over the rest of the treatment period.
Good luck finding your orthodontist - do you have friends or colleagues who could recommend one to you, perhaps?
How much was the cost between the compromised option and the full one with surgery? The brace I had on the NHS didn't require me to have surgery so maybe that was the compromised option they took. My brother had the same and his teeth are almost completly straght teeth although his chin is slighltly set back but not as much as mine.Meryaten wrote:I had a retrognathic (set-back) chin, and associated Class II div 2 malocclusion (overjet). My orthodontist felt that, in my case, extraction was not appropriate, and so offered me either a compromise result (overjet would not have been fully corrected) or surgery. I went for a consultation with an extremely experienced OS, and asked him what would be the benefits, but he was very reluctant to give any promises.
I'm 17 months post-op now. And as well as having a really super outcome orthodontically, I've found that my jaw joints are in much better shape - where before my jaw might sometimes lock, this no longer happens at all.
Of course, the results should also be more stable than the compromise treatment would have achieved as well.
I'm in the UK - my dentist recommended an orthodontist to me. I've got upper ceramics and metal lowers. Treatment is estimated at 2yrs, followed by 1yr in retainers.
My consultation was £50. Treatment was about £2400 up front or £2600 paid in three instalments of about £800. There was a monthly arrangement available to but I cant remember what it was.
My consultation was £50. Treatment was about £2400 up front or £2600 paid in three instalments of about £800. There was a monthly arrangement available to but I cant remember what it was.
Before I knew I needed surgery, I just went to my nhs/private dentist who then refered me to the orthodontist I was given a list of options and if i remember correctly just braces would cost 3400 pounds (ceramic top metal bottom) he did say this would straighten my teeth and camoflauge the over but but braces wouldnt correct my profile. I then told me orthodontist i really would like it done properly the full works so he refered me to the nhs hospital had a surgeoun come in and see me and now i have been accepted for treatement which is fantatsic. Im just waiting for my letter to tell when im being braced 
Maybe you should see the orthodontist i had to pay 80 consultation fee but thats it and it was definetely worth it, otherwise you can self refer yourself to the NHS and they have to examine you within 17weeks i think.
Maybe you should see the orthodontist i had to pay 80 consultation fee but thats it and it was definetely worth it, otherwise you can self refer yourself to the NHS and they have to examine you within 17weeks i think.
wisdom teeth removed under GA nov07 * Braced 8/2/08 * 2 premolars removed Apr08 * Adjustment 4 rebonding, 4 molar bands & new wire 4/7/08 * 31Jul wire change * 28 Aug last wire fitted and lower powerchain put on. 29th May moulds and x rays. 31st July Surgery date I heard for large overjets that Functional brace is what is fitted because it changes the jaw structure and pulls the teeth back quickly. I read that the receeded chin can be solved as well. I don't know if this only works for children with jaws that are still growing, I hope not.
It was a functional brace I had as a kid that only half did the job because I only half wore it. I don't know if I can have one now or not. I'd love to have one simply because they are quick and cheaprer than the other options also there less visable.
It was a functional brace I had as a kid that only half did the job because I only half wore it. I don't know if I can have one now or not. I'd love to have one simply because they are quick and cheaprer than the other options also there less visable.
If functional appliances could work wonders like that in adults, we'd all have them 
Sadly a functional appliance cannot change jaw structure once you've finished growing, and nothing can advance the chin in adults except jaw surgery (to bring the lower jaw forward). Sometimes functional appliances are used in adults, but they will only move the teeth within the support of the existing alveolar bone. They can't actually change the bone structure as once you stop growing it's too late for that.
Sadly a functional appliance cannot change jaw structure once you've finished growing, and nothing can advance the chin in adults except jaw surgery (to bring the lower jaw forward). Sometimes functional appliances are used in adults, but they will only move the teeth within the support of the existing alveolar bone. They can't actually change the bone structure as once you stop growing it's too late for that.
after doing some research it turns out have a deep bite as well as an overhet. Normally my jaw doesn't sit where it does when im chewing. During every day it just kinds of hangs down droopy looking but when I bite I have a deep bite and the receeding chin thing. Looks like if i want to get my teeth sorted im goning to have to have surgery 
I think you'll have to get consultations to find out for certain.
For background, I an in the uk and go privately. I have an overjet and over bite. I started the consult process and at first my ortho said I would probably need surgery. After the study model stage ( by that time I'd spent about 300), she said she could expand my bottom arch using braces alone.
I am getting a compromised result in a way as I will on my treatment plan should get 90 percent or more. She showed me pics of similar. She wants to avoid surgery if possible. I also want to avoid as it is a step I'm not ready for.
My brace plan is costing 4500 ceramics both ( though this means molars still in metals) they would have cost 3500 metal or 4000 ceramic for uppers only. But I know I pay on the upper end being in central London and going to a top ortho.
btw I too had a functional appliance when I was young with headgear..I much prefer my braces now. The hardest part of my treatment is my bite plate which like my functional appliance interferes with my speech. The fixed braces do not hurt at all whilst the functional one I had as a kid I used to cry myself to sleep.. Hence I stopped wearing it. Life is much easier now.
For background, I an in the uk and go privately. I have an overjet and over bite. I started the consult process and at first my ortho said I would probably need surgery. After the study model stage ( by that time I'd spent about 300), she said she could expand my bottom arch using braces alone.
I am getting a compromised result in a way as I will on my treatment plan should get 90 percent or more. She showed me pics of similar. She wants to avoid surgery if possible. I also want to avoid as it is a step I'm not ready for.
My brace plan is costing 4500 ceramics both ( though this means molars still in metals) they would have cost 3500 metal or 4000 ceramic for uppers only. But I know I pay on the upper end being in central London and going to a top ortho.
btw I too had a functional appliance when I was young with headgear..I much prefer my braces now. The hardest part of my treatment is my bite plate which like my functional appliance interferes with my speech. The fixed braces do not hurt at all whilst the functional one I had as a kid I used to cry myself to sleep.. Hence I stopped wearing it. Life is much easier now.