SARPE Surgery

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AjikanPanda
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#946 Post by AjikanPanda »

Hey-Surgery went great, althought I am cocnered about the bleeding

I am bleeding alot from my mouth and my nose.

Is this norma;?

Selims
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How long does the SARPE procedure normally take?

#947 Post by Selims »

Hi All,

I am looking for a random selection of you SARPEies to tell me how long the procedure takes from operation to getting the braces off.

Thanks!!

Selims
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How long does the SARPE procedure normally take?

#948 Post by Selims »

Hi All,

I am looking for a random selection of you SARPEies to tell me how long the procedure takes from operation to getting the braces off.

Thanks!!

nesnob
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#949 Post by nesnob »

Hi AjikanPanda

My surgeon told me to expect a few nosebleeds in the first few days, and sure enough I had them. The amount of blood was similar to a normal nosebleed ... i.e. used up a few tissues, but then it dried up by itself. I didn't have any bleeding in my mouth. My surgeon said if blood started "gushing" out of my nose then to contact him immediately.

Good luck for a speedy recovery!

BTW, do you have any numbness? My entire top lip is still numb, as is one cheekm while the other cheek is slowly getting feeling back. It's bugging me quite a lot. For example, I wasn't able to tell I was having a nosebleeds until it started dripping! Ugh ...

Oh well, I'm assured it will get better in time.

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#950 Post by nesnob »

Hi AjikanPanda

My surgeon told me to expect a few nosebleeds in the first few days, and sure enough I had them. The amount of blood was similar to a normal nosebleed ... i.e. used up a few tissues, but then it dried up by itself. I didn't have any bleeding in my mouth. My surgeon said if blood started "gushing" out of my nose then to contact him immediately.

Good luck for a speedy recovery!

BTW, do you have any numbness? My entire top lip is still numb, as is one cheekm while the other cheek is slowly getting feeling back. It's bugging me quite a lot. For example, I wasn't able to tell I was having a nosebleeds until it started dripping! Ugh ...

Oh well, I'm assured it will get better in time.

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#951 Post by badbite »

AjikanPanda,

Hope your surgery went well. When I answered your post, I was thinking about my molars felling like marshmallows. My two front teeth did get loose. I felt that if I got bumped, one may actually come out. So don't worry if your teeth feel loose. You won't be able to bite down for some time anyway and they will tighten back up.

I don't know about the underbite. I have heard from some that it got better from sarpe. Mine has not. My open bite is worse since SARPE. I have an underbite and willl need upper jaw advancement to correct it.
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RPE in on Jan 7, 2008
SARPE on Jan 11, 2008 expanded 7 mm
RPE out on May 14, 2008

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#952 Post by lueyfufu »

AjikanPanda: My OS told me to expect nosebleeds for the first several days. And I also had mild bleeding in my mouth from the incision for the first couple of days. As long as you're not spurting blood everywhere Tarantino-style, I think you should be fine. :)

Also, something I learned the hard way - try not to swallow the blood. It can upset your stomach and make you feel nauseous.
Last edited by lueyfufu on Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
Lower braces: 7/1/08
Expander installed: 7/8/08
SARPE: 7/15/08
First adjustment for lowers: 8/5/08
Expander tied: 8/11/08
Upper braces: 8/28/08
Lefort I & BSSO: 1/8/13

AjikanPanda
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#953 Post by AjikanPanda »

http://ajikanpanda.blogspot.com/

Made a Blog.

Things went well.

I may not do lefort 1, I dont want it

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do what it takes

#954 Post by chipmunkcheeks »

at this point, i would do whatever it takes to get the perfect smile...youve already been through enough, why not finish it...

i had sarpe last summer, then a bsso, genio, and another lefort I this summer. so, i have experience with sarpe lefort and regular lefort (to raise the jaw). if you are only going to have lefort done in the future, just think, youve already done it, you know what to expect. i think even though i had 3 operations, it was easier than the sarpe last year because i was prepared for it.

plus, my friend had a cleft palate as a child. she had that fixed. and finally at 18, she had her jaw done, and she looks totally amazing with the final results. you need to keep the big picture and prize in mind.....

before anything
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after sarpe
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bottom braces (8months) top braces (6 months) of course me faking that my teeth actually fit together...
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lefort I (again), bsso, genio
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profile right before surgery
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profile 2 weeks post op
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#955 Post by lueyfufu »

Hey AjikanPanda, how you doing today? I know by my day 4, I was sooo ready to go out and do anything but stay home watching TV and slurping soup. :)
Lower braces: 7/1/08
Expander installed: 7/8/08
SARPE: 7/15/08
First adjustment for lowers: 8/5/08
Expander tied: 8/11/08
Upper braces: 8/28/08
Lefort I & BSSO: 1/8/13

nesnob
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Dizziness / Vertigo

#956 Post by nesnob »

Hi,

I had my surgery on 7/24. My recovery seems to be going well, except for the annoying numbness, but last Saturday I woke up with something new ... vertigo!

Has anyone else experienced this?

I still have it: short, severe bouts when I lie down or sit up, or even just move my head suddenly. However I'm getting used to compensating for it by moving gently.

I slept against a backrest for the first week after surgery, and my dizziness arrived suddenly after sleeping the first night back on my usual, low pillow. So I wondered if some swelling might have drained into my ear, but my OS said this was impossible. He suggested I might have low blood pressure from post-surgery dehydration.

Or possibly it might be related to the expansion: I was given a total of 28 turns in the first 8 days after surgery, which seems faster than most, and then woke up with the dizziness the next day.

Any ideas, folks?

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#957 Post by Elspeth »

Man, I'm having some trouble with turning my expander. :? I have no idea if I'm doing it right! My ortho showed me how but I've forgotten and its the weekend and they're closed right now...

I know I have to stick the key into the hole. I can see the hole fine, so I stick the key in until it doesn't seem to want to go any further. Then I just pull it out.

Am I supposed to twist it in a direction or something while its in the hole? I do get a slightly funny sensation when I stick the key in, but I honestly don't know if I'm doing it correctly.

Also, is 6mm considered a significant amount of expansion?

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#958 Post by lueyfufu »

nesnob: My first thought was the same thing your surgeon suggested - low blood pressure from dehydration, or being weak from not getting enough calories.
Lower braces: 7/1/08
Expander installed: 7/8/08
SARPE: 7/15/08
First adjustment for lowers: 8/5/08
Expander tied: 8/11/08
Upper braces: 8/28/08
Lefort I & BSSO: 1/8/13

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#959 Post by crazybeautiful »

You put in the key so it is firmly in (will probably remain there if you let go) and you then pull it in the direction ofthe back of your mouth*, and whilst doing so a new hole will appear ready for the next turn. If you are just putting the key in the hole but not moving it, you're not actually doing anything. It's difficult for me to explain because I had a minion to do it for me (I don't get how you guys manage it, I really don't :lol: )


* I think this is what most designs are, but look for the little arrows as these show you which way to turn.

Hope that helped a little :)

I think 6mm is a significant amount. Some have less, some have more, but every extra bit of space is worthwhile. I expanded 10mm in all
~SARME, Nov 2007. 10mm expansion

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My blog: http://crazybeautifulsurgery.blogspot.com/

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#960 Post by nesnob »

lueyfufu wrote:nesnob: My first thought was the same thing your surgeon suggested - low blood pressure from dehydration, or being weak from not getting enough calories.
I should have said - the reason I know it's not my blood pressure is that they took it, and it's normal.

Also, I get vertigo just from moving my head suddenly, even while seated. So pretty sure it's something in my ear ... hmmph :-(

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