Mouth Breathing
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The way I understand it (and am thankful I don't remember it thanks to whatever that drug is they give you for such things) is that I was intubated twice, first, they put the things down the nose for the internal turbinates/jaw stuff, then once that part was over, out, and new tube down throat for nose stuff. so nose was done after the jaw, no chance of messing it up. I guess they couldn't do such with you if you were lower jaw as well?
Ah well. Hopefully it will be an easy fix for you in office down the road;)
The way I understand it (and am thankful I don't remember it thanks to whatever that drug is they give you for such things) is that I was intubated twice, first, they put the things down the nose for the internal turbinates/jaw stuff, then once that part was over, out, and new tube down throat for nose stuff. so nose was done after the jaw, no chance of messing it up. I guess they couldn't do such with you if you were lower jaw as well?
Ah well. Hopefully it will be an easy fix for you in office down the road;)
I just googled a you tube video on Neti Pot and I really don't think I could that. I had a friend in school that would snort water in her nose and blow it when she was really runny and I just can't let anything go in my nose like that. I am weird when it comes to my nose but maybe that will change after surgery. My whole life I can't wear masks that cover my nose or let me pillow get to close to my nose while I sleep. I can never let the blanket cover my face and I hate those nasal sprays that I have been prescribed so many times. Don't even get me started on wearing the chem gear gas mask, I don't know what I would do if I actually had to wear one for a real attack.
Are there any other things I could use that would do something similar to the Neti Pot? So the surgery I described is a Turbinectomy and a septoplasty? He said everything would be done through an incision inside the nose and that I wouldn't get the normal black eye bruising. I was told I would get a week off work but I was kinda wondering if they would be taking the splints out Fri if my surgery is monday or if it wouldn't be until the next mon because I really don't want to go to work with them in my nose. I am a shift worker so there is also the possibility that they will send me to work sat since I am only given 5 days. Should I request 7 days? Sorry so many questions but my mind is spinning with them!
Are there any other things I could use that would do something similar to the Neti Pot? So the surgery I described is a Turbinectomy and a septoplasty? He said everything would be done through an incision inside the nose and that I wouldn't get the normal black eye bruising. I was told I would get a week off work but I was kinda wondering if they would be taking the splints out Fri if my surgery is monday or if it wouldn't be until the next mon because I really don't want to go to work with them in my nose. I am a shift worker so there is also the possibility that they will send me to work sat since I am only given 5 days. Should I request 7 days? Sorry so many questions but my mind is spinning with them!
I think the splints normally stay in for a week, at least 5 days. I had mine for a week. Once they came out, I was able to use the Neti pot. i know it sounds wierd, and I tried to use it before surgery many years ago, but surprise surprise if one side is blocked it don't works so well 
I can't remember seeing them or being able to see them, but I did it with jaw surgery so I wasn't real coherent the first week quite honestly. I was a very happy camper when they finally came out though.
I know of some suction thing that is used for cleaning sinuses (mainly because my godmother was obsessed with telling me I should use some such right after surgery) but I imagine you can't use them for 6 weeks or so b/c they are forcing water up at too much pressure, whereas the neti you can control pressure/flow speed.
I understand not liking anything on your face or nose, i"ve been the same way but I've noticed since surgery even that is changing. I also don't gag and get claustrophobic with molds now that I can breath through my mouth!! I also like spicy foods now. Funny, that noses actually matter;)
I don't see why he says you won't get the bruising 'round the eyes unless he's just removing the bone blockage and not having to break the nose to do so? I'd think you'd at least have some bruising on the side with the blockage but I dunno.
yes, you described turbinectomy and septoplasty. It is done through little incisions inside, no scars. Just don't pull on anything inside the nose for a bit, I kinda made that mistake and removed my stitches thinking they were boogies.
But it's fine, no harm no foul.
I can't remember seeing them or being able to see them, but I did it with jaw surgery so I wasn't real coherent the first week quite honestly. I was a very happy camper when they finally came out though.I know of some suction thing that is used for cleaning sinuses (mainly because my godmother was obsessed with telling me I should use some such right after surgery) but I imagine you can't use them for 6 weeks or so b/c they are forcing water up at too much pressure, whereas the neti you can control pressure/flow speed.
I understand not liking anything on your face or nose, i"ve been the same way but I've noticed since surgery even that is changing. I also don't gag and get claustrophobic with molds now that I can breath through my mouth!! I also like spicy foods now. Funny, that noses actually matter;)
I don't see why he says you won't get the bruising 'round the eyes unless he's just removing the bone blockage and not having to break the nose to do so? I'd think you'd at least have some bruising on the side with the blockage but I dunno.
yes, you described turbinectomy and septoplasty. It is done through little incisions inside, no scars. Just don't pull on anything inside the nose for a bit, I kinda made that mistake and removed my stitches thinking they were boogies.
But it's fine, no harm no foul.Well in case you didn't see in my story I am out of surgery and doing fine. I had a scare with blood coming out of my tear duct on my left eye when they had me move from the bed to the chair and again that night when I stupidly forgot I wasn't supposed to pick up either of my 26 lb kids and I did so while sitting on my king size bed and he was standing in the floor. Needless to say it didn't stop all night and when I woke up my eye was crusted over and I couldn't open it until I got a wet washcloth. I am feeling like I might soon be able to take this thing off my nose and possibly breath out of it. My poor poor husband can't sleep in the same bed because not only am I snoring but with the tubes in it is making a terrible whistling sound. I would say the only pain I am in is from my sore throat (from the breathing tube) and a sore neck from all the pillows I have to prop myself up with to sleep. I have been wanting to get walking around but with this thing on my nose I am not brave enough to so I just walk around my house. Anyway, hope everyone is doing good.
Don't worry!!!! I am pretty sure that I could feel the dangley thing post op due to swelling and I kept trying to hock it up in the hospital even though it was attached, so getting it out during op will actually be beneficial IMHO!!!seriously wrote:However, I am freaking out RIGHT NOW!!! I am supposed to have that along with my jaw surgery and the back of my throat being cut out...how am I gonna breathe????!!!!Am I absolutely nuts?????
Feel better yet??
nice comment haha..Absoluteherb wrote:Hi
You were supposed to have noticed this condition of breathing ever since you were small for it to be adjusted. I think the best thing to do now is to look for the best doctor who can follow up your case. Good luck.
obviously, none of us noticed the condition otherwise we probably would have done something. i didn't even realize that i was breathing through my mouth 90% of the time until i was 20-21...
I was 26 when I found out. I think it's such an overlooked issue. Parents should get info about checking kids for mouthbreathing, and dentists should regularly screen for this, in my opinion. In elementary school they had nurses come and screen female students for scoliosis on a regular basis. I wish they had done that for mouthbreathing. T hey would have probably been able to find (and correct) more mouthbreathing children than those with scoliosis.brendan wrote:
obviously, none of us noticed the condition otherwise we probably would have done something. i didn't even realize that i was breathing through my mouth 90% of the time until i was 20-21...
well its been 4 days since surgery and I don't have to wear the gauze under my nose I just carry around a tissue for the once in awhile drips. Still can't breath out of my nose and still lots of pain and pressure but no bruising. I can't tell if my nose is this big from the swelling or the tubes in my nose or maybe both but Sunday can't come fast enough when they will take these out!
I was hoping I could get some clarification on what was stated on earlier posts for this thread. To properly diagnose a deviated septum or other "mouth breathing" issues, do you need a Sinus CT scan or a head (brain) CT scan?
The latter seems like overkill to me...I'm very paranoid about all of the X-Rays I have to go through in this orthodontic/surgical journey, and I'm wondering if this is another one to add to my list!! I admit I'm no doctor and my only anatomy class was back in High School, but I would think you can properly diagnose sinus/nose/septum issues with a Sinus CT scan.
Thanks for the clarifications!
Chicago29
The latter seems like overkill to me...I'm very paranoid about all of the X-Rays I have to go through in this orthodontic/surgical journey, and I'm wondering if this is another one to add to my list!! I admit I'm no doctor and my only anatomy class was back in High School, but I would think you can properly diagnose sinus/nose/septum issues with a Sinus CT scan.
Thanks for the clarifications!
Chicago29
Isn't the airway visible on a lateral cephalogram? When I had records taken at my OS office, my surgeon looked at the lateral ceph. and asked me if I had a hard time breathing through my nose because the nasal passage looked pinched.
p.s., is a lateral ceph the same thing as a CT scan? If so, I feel dumb.
p.s., is a lateral ceph the same thing as a CT scan? If so, I feel dumb.
I cannot agree with you more on this. I cant even add to it. F'cking so true. I wish there would have at least been a god damn 'warning, MOUTH IS NOT FOR BREATHING' heavily told to me when i was younger...suetemi wrote:I was 26 when I found out. I think it's such an overlooked issue. Parents should get info about checking kids for mouthbreathing, and dentists should regularly screen for this, in my opinion. In elementary school they had nurses come and screen female students for scoliosis on a regular basis. I wish they had done that for mouthbreathing. T hey would have probably been able to find (and correct) more mouthbreathing children than those with scoliosis.brendan wrote:
obviously, none of us noticed the condition otherwise we probably would have done something. i didn't even realize that i was breathing through my mouth 90% of the time until i was 20-21...
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anotherbraceface
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The discussion of mouth-breathing being related to abnormal facial development is an interesting one.
When I was about 6 my parents noticed that I was developing a variety of problems, including bad breath, mouth-breathing and snoring, and took me to the doctor. The doctor told them I had swollen adenoids/tonsils, but to NOT BOTHER HAVING THEM REMOVED because the swelling goes down naturally as you enter your teens. He told her to wait until I was 16 ( a good ten years away) and then be reassessed rather than to put me through surgery. Tonsilectomies were pretty common back then, too, so aside from the discomfort of surgery, there was minimal risk.
It boggles me that my doctor suggested I spend ten years with obstructed breathing, and that my mother didn't bat an eye, and no surprise, today I have a lot of the facial features associated with mouth breathers (slightly gummy smile, long jaw, particularly the mandible, flattened cheeks, inability to close my mouth fully without exerting my chin, etc. etc. etc.), not to mention the inability to concentrate, anxiety and other phenomenon often associated with obstructed breathing.
It's a wonder to me that parents don't fully understand the long-term implications of health problems in their children, and doctors don't seem all that keen on advising of them.
When I was about 6 my parents noticed that I was developing a variety of problems, including bad breath, mouth-breathing and snoring, and took me to the doctor. The doctor told them I had swollen adenoids/tonsils, but to NOT BOTHER HAVING THEM REMOVED because the swelling goes down naturally as you enter your teens. He told her to wait until I was 16 ( a good ten years away) and then be reassessed rather than to put me through surgery. Tonsilectomies were pretty common back then, too, so aside from the discomfort of surgery, there was minimal risk.
It boggles me that my doctor suggested I spend ten years with obstructed breathing, and that my mother didn't bat an eye, and no surprise, today I have a lot of the facial features associated with mouth breathers (slightly gummy smile, long jaw, particularly the mandible, flattened cheeks, inability to close my mouth fully without exerting my chin, etc. etc. etc.), not to mention the inability to concentrate, anxiety and other phenomenon often associated with obstructed breathing.
It's a wonder to me that parents don't fully understand the long-term implications of health problems in their children, and doctors don't seem all that keen on advising of them.
anotherbraceface: i totally feel you on that. When i was younger, i had SEVERE nasal congestion almost EVERY night, i tried all sorts of ointment but to no avail. My mom never thought for me to seek medical help. i was 19 and sought help on my own, had an ENT check my nose, then i found out i had a deviated septum and enlarged turbinates. Had the op and now i breath much better.
The damage from all that mouth breathing when i was younger is still there though. I have that gummy smile with a very steep mandibular plane. I'm kinda regretting going the route that i went - extractions without surgery. My bite is strange, due to my chronic grinding, i suspect my open bite became closed over the years, with the molars much shorter than the front teeth. What's worse is that my mouth's relaxed state is open. It really irks me. Sigh
The damage from all that mouth breathing when i was younger is still there though. I have that gummy smile with a very steep mandibular plane. I'm kinda regretting going the route that i went - extractions without surgery. My bite is strange, due to my chronic grinding, i suspect my open bite became closed over the years, with the molars much shorter than the front teeth. What's worse is that my mouth's relaxed state is open. It really irks me. Sigh