Lower teeth hitting upper teeth brackets

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#1 Post by **Moh** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:40 pm

Thanks a lot to those who set up this blog site. Its really usefull.

Hi, I have done some research about the linguals.
I found that the lower teeth hits the upper teeth linguals
I reckon that that must be causing the quite a bit of discomfort in closing your mouth.

Please give me your feedback on this.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Cheers!!

#2 Post by **drrick** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:44 am

your lower teeth will hit the bite plane on teh upper linguals if you have a deep bite. that will help your teeth move faster. We uses similar bite planes in outside braces too. It isnt generally incomfortable but can be triky eating initially.

#3 Post by **Moh** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:41 pm

Thanks Drrick for the reply.

I am an adult in mid 30s.
How long does it take, on average, before I can notice movement of teeth.

I want to use it for 6 months max due to certain personal reasons. I would like to retain the improvement that comes in 6 months. I have heared for fixed retainers which are wires runninng behind the teeth. Are such wires more expensive than the normal plastic retainers which stick to the palate?

#4 Post by **Moh** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:50 pm

Well to be frank, I want only a partial improvement because I do not want anyone to know that I am concious of my teeth and have gone for a correction.

Currently my tooth is too deep-in so much so that it is makes me look bad while speaking let alone smiling and laughing.

What I want to achieve is that it does not look as bad as it does now. Something that will make me more cofident and comfortable.

#5 Post by **drrick** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:11 pm

You generally notice changes fairly quickly. By the 3rd month things have generally moved quie well.

As far as retainer fees that varies from office to office. I include rets in my fee so in it would be tghe same fee whether a splinted wire or a clear ret was used.

Dont worry about being self conscious and seeking tx. You are the one that has to look at yourself in teh mirror each day and you should feel as confident as you want.

#6 Post by **allycat** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:06 am

drrick...pls can u explain how the bottom teeth hitting the lingual brackets on the top teeth at the front helps the teeth to move faster?

thanks very much

#7 Post by **drrick** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:11 pm

This is especially true in deep bites. Lets say you have deep bite and the culprit is a deep curve in your lower jaw when viewed from the side. The BU will spearate your teeth and tghen the shape memory action of the wire can move teh teeth move quickly since you do not have to overcome the forces of occlusion.

Also this allows for immediate lower arch bracketing (instead of waiting several months)

You can get the exact same effect with bu's in labial braces (when you place them in the correct spot)

#8 Post by **Moh** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:48 pm

One of incisors, close to the one which is out of position, is a bit loose. I think that is becuase it does not get the support that it would have if the crooked teeth was in position? Could that be right?

Will that be a problem in getting the linguals. When they put the wire, can they skip the loose tooth?

All the teeth, including the god ones, that are connected by the wire will be pressed in one way or the other. Then how comes the teeth which are already in correct position retain thier position.

#9 Post by **Moh** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:48 pm

One of incisors, close to the one which is out of position, is a bit loose. I think that is becuase it does not get the support that it would have if the crooked teeth was in position? Could that be right?

Will that be a problem in getting the linguals. When they put the wire, can they skip the loose tooth?

All the teeth, including the god ones, that are connected by the wire will be pressed in one way or the other. Then how comes the teeth which are already in correct position retain thier position.

#10 Post by **drrick** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:46 am

Have you been checked by your dentist for gum disease, etc.
That is a common cause of loose teeth (occlusal trauma can cause it as well) You need clean bill of health from your dentist before getting braces. The loose tooth will not be bypassed. The shapoe of the wires moves the teeth to the ideal position (or maintains current ideal position)

#11 Post by **Lynne** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:02 am

Hi,

I have had lingual braces for a few months now. My bottom teeth hit the brackets on the upper teeth so that I cannot completely close my mouth. It felt very strange initially when eating, but I got used to it very quickly.

One positive thing - it has completely stopped me 'clenching' my teeth when I get tense or anxious, which used to give me bad headaches, also my jaw doesn't 'click' anymore.

After the initial adapting phase, the linguals really haven't been bad at all.

Good luck

#12 Post by **drrick** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:13 am

Funny you should say that since I use a 'nightguard' that takes advantage of that very thing.

#13 Post by **Lynne** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:29 am

Just wondered...how will an orthodontist be able to check if the bite is correct or work on correcting the bite if the teeth do not touch?

#14 Post by **drrick** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:21 am

They only dont touch in the inital stages. Same thing happens with regular braces in deep bite cases.

#15 Post by **Moh** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:11 am

Hi Drrick, Do you know if it possible to reverse the bone loss. My dentist said that my bone loss is so much that I cannot avail linguals.

What are the alternatives?