I must agree with those who maintain you should not let some of the experiences of others scare you about self ligating brackets.
What is most important is finding an ortho you trust and who comes highly recommended. If he/she recommends and or uses SL brackets - that should not be a concern as long as you trust their opinion and skill.
Keep in mind many, many orthos use SL's -- why would they would continue to use them if they caused such agony on a consistent basis for their patients or if they did not like the results achieved? Clearly the success of their ortho practice is going to be of utmost importance here.
As explained to me - all adjustments will cause pressure. Whether it is the 'cranking' or 'twisting' feeling of having new ligatures swapped out, or the opening or closing sensation of doors on SLs.
I contemplated braces for TWO years and over that time period I met with ten different orthos - that's right ten. (I moved to another area midway and then changed a job so there were a few reasons for so many consults.) Five of those orthos used traditional brackets and five of those orthos used self ligating. Interestingly enough, only one of the orthos who uses traditional brackets was board certified, and three of the orthos who use self ligating are board certified.
In addition prices were all over the place and the use of self ligating made NO difference in many instances - nor did the use of ceramic. In other words self ligating brackets or damon wires did NOT increase the price with the majority of orthos. The most expensive ortho had 35 years experience, board certified and used self ligating - and he wanted to charge me $8,000 for my braces. He also did not take my insurance therefore he could charge what he wanted for braces. Other orthos in my plan were under a fixed rate to charge based on insurance guidelines. Their prices were more down around $5,000-$5500. And I had orthos who charged $6,000 for traditional brackets as well.
I think what I found most interesting was that an eleventh orthodontist insisted he would NOT use traditional braces on me but rather insisted on invisalign to correct my open bite and crossbite - the cost would be $7,000 and he said at the end of treatment I'd need braces to 'perfect' the job!! AND the additional braces would cost more, but he could not say for sure how much more but atleast another $1,000. I've had other orthos SHUTTER at this ortho's recommendation of Invisalign for me - infact they could not even believe he called himself an ortho. I know I know - teeth can me moved with ANY technique. Guess the key word there is CAN be moved, but that does not mean that there are not far superior techniques to use that will give a better chance of overall success vs. another technique. And when I'm paying for this with time and money - I'm going to go with the odds being in my favor.
Lastly - - - since getting my self ligating braces, not only have I experienced minimal discomfort in the closing and opening of doors (no tears to the eyes) -- but I've met a large number of other adult patients with SL's who are further along in treatment, had thicker wires added and they have had no issues whatsover.
I can only assume this comes down to the individual patient's case, perhaps their overall sensitivity as well as the person doing the work on their mouth, time between adjustments, etc. But not the technique of opening and closing doors to secure an arch wire vs. the popping in of an arch wire and keeping it secured by placing a ligature on every tooth.
Best of luck with your choice!!
The pain of shutting doors on braces!
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This afternoon I had another adjustment & so I took one
ibuprofen half hour before. I was hoping I would only get
my powerchains on my extractions replaced boy was I praying it
would only be that! As soon as I sat in the chair I asked if they
were going to have to take out wires.
The ortho came & examined me put some new different powerchains
on my top extractions. Told the assistant what had to be done.
She had to tie all my bottom front teeth so she would need to take
out the wire. I asked twice if she had to do any work on top she
said not this time. Aaah good news, bad news. But I was hoping
for the best & to have less pain this time w/the opening & closing
of the doors.
Nope it didn't go that way. It hurt! Even when she had to slide the
wire back in & she was pulling on it. The worse pain is when she is
trying to shut the doors over the wire. At least I got a laugh when
she thought I had fainted. She had be biting on gauze again & I tried
to counter force back w/my tongue. After I was just so glad I didn't
have to worry about my top teeth. But she did mention how I'm not
yet on the real thick wire & having such pain, I guess to make me
feel better.
Oh & I am not a wimp!! As I mentioned I had 4 extractions the
same day I got my braces on! I don't even take pain meds,
this time I took one but next time I think I'll take 2! I like my
braces because when I'm notin that chair getting doors opened
& closed, I've had no discomfort or pain. Aaah so here's another rant.
I have a cleaning in 3 weeks. I asked if they had to take out the wires
to do that she said no. Is that right??
Then in 6 weeks is my next adjustment.
ibuprofen half hour before. I was hoping I would only get
my powerchains on my extractions replaced boy was I praying it
would only be that! As soon as I sat in the chair I asked if they
were going to have to take out wires.
The ortho came & examined me put some new different powerchains
on my top extractions. Told the assistant what had to be done.
She had to tie all my bottom front teeth so she would need to take
out the wire. I asked twice if she had to do any work on top she
said not this time. Aaah good news, bad news. But I was hoping
for the best & to have less pain this time w/the opening & closing
of the doors.
Nope it didn't go that way. It hurt! Even when she had to slide the
wire back in & she was pulling on it. The worse pain is when she is
trying to shut the doors over the wire. At least I got a laugh when
she thought I had fainted. She had be biting on gauze again & I tried
to counter force back w/my tongue. After I was just so glad I didn't
have to worry about my top teeth. But she did mention how I'm not
yet on the real thick wire & having such pain, I guess to make me
feel better.
Oh & I am not a wimp!! As I mentioned I had 4 extractions the
same day I got my braces on! I don't even take pain meds,
this time I took one but next time I think I'll take 2! I like my
braces because when I'm notin that chair getting doors opened
& closed, I've had no discomfort or pain. Aaah so here's another rant.
I have a cleaning in 3 weeks. I asked if they had to take out the wires
to do that she said no. Is that right??
Then in 6 weeks is my next adjustment.
Awww that sounds horrible! So sorry you are going through such pain. It sounds like it might be the technique of the person who is opening and closing the doors and placing your new wires in. Is there any chance you can ask if your Ortho can do this for you in the future?
It also sounds like your teeth were very sensitive still when you went for your adjustement. How long between wire changes are you scheduled?
For what it's worth I've heard that ligature changes were just as exruciating. It might depend on how sore your teeth are at the time of your adjustment as well as who is doing the changing.
I hope your next visit is pain free!
It also sounds like your teeth were very sensitive still when you went for your adjustement. How long between wire changes are you scheduled?
For what it's worth I've heard that ligature changes were just as exruciating. It might depend on how sore your teeth are at the time of your adjustment as well as who is doing the changing.
I hope your next visit is pain free!