why do people usually get attractive after surgery

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Kirish
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#61 Post by Kirish »

crazybeautiful wrote:I don't deny that surgery improves people's appearances, but my point is that this isn't the same thing as making someone beautiful or attractive. You are nothing more after surgery than simply having a features that are more normal. And because normality is better than abnormality, then by default you will look better. It's because of this that I diasgree with you, not in spite of it.


Surgery gives you normality, nothing more. Put it another way: does jaw surgery correct ugliness or jaws?
Well, misaligned jaws are a source of ugliness, so in this regard surgery correct ugliness. Of course jaws are not the only source of ugliness/beauty in a face...[/quote]


[/quote]PS- Charlotte Gainbourg has a pronounced chin and jaw, certainly[/quote]

She does seem to have somewhat pronounces chin, but really, in comparison to us she has no problem...

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I'm looking to see someone with a real, pronounced underbite/overbite, like us.
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#62 Post by Heather »

Keira Knightley is thought to have an underbite and she is regarded as beautiful to many.


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#63 Post by Kirish »

Heather wrote:Keira Knightley is thought to have an underbite and she is regarded as beautiful to many.


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She is very beautiful, no doubt, but that's not an underbite !

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There is no actor with an underbite/overbite.
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#64 Post by Marisama »

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Seth Rogen isn't good looking by any means, but he's an actor with an underbite.

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#65 Post by charlsie142 »

Dominic Monaghan (Charlie from Lost) also has an underbite and is fairly good looking (he snagged Kate from Lost in real life!)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Monaghan

Lots of celebrities have overbites...just a simple google search will show you lots. And you'll often see lots of actors/actresses with retrognathic jaws, although they (almost) never have leading roles...
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#66 Post by Kirish »

I'm not sure Seth Rogen and Dominic Monaghan have an underbite. There is a difference between underbite and pronounced lower jaw. I wasn't able to get a clear profile pic of any of them, so it's hard to say.

btw, Dominic's face is not pretty at all. He's somewhat cute, but there is a huge distinction between him and those in Lost which are pretty (Jack, Sawyer...)
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#67 Post by ReneG »

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Please let this thread die.
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#68 Post by VikingGirl »

Dominic jaw was mor crooked. And he got it fixed (I'm pretty sure and many others agree!)

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#69 Post by shanalouis »

whoopi goldberg has a weird mouth

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#70 Post by pipikid »

You had me laughing Kirish, what are you on about in this whole thread.

It seems you're on a vendetta to prove that everyone has somehow or rather be in the same category as you; that the intrinsic reason deep down for most people doing jaw surgery is about aesthetic reasons.

You're right we are in a shallow society, thankfully there are more than one avenues where one can make his or her mark on society except being solely on looks, evidently you don't seem to grasp that part.

Even if it was for aesthetic reasons, how does admitting that you conform to the norms of beauty helps? That they massage your sorry ego that you're the only person willing to say so and yet can act like a total schoolboy bully saying that someone is unattractive back then as opposed to now.

Thankfully, for most people they don't need a validation from you to do their jaw surgery nor do they need you to tell them what good looking is.

And looking up the literature on the history of beauty, as you suggested you are on the dean's list every now and then I would be inclined to think you're somehow well read. The perception of beauty changes according to historical periods so there's no clear absolute value on it should be.

The other thing being normal and being attractive are 2 different issues. Most people want to get on with life without being the subject of ridicule or the brunt of jokes from other people, why is it not a good reason then as opposed to functional corrections? Dating would clearly be the last thing on their minds.

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#71 Post by Kirish »

pipikid wrote:You had me laughing Kirish, what are you on about in this whole thread.

It seems you're on a vendetta to prove that everyone has somehow or rather be in the same category as you; that the intrinsic reason deep down for most people doing jaw surgery is about aesthetic reasons.
Not all, but many (but I admit not as many as I originally thought, as can be seen in the poll thread I started about this issue).
You're right we are in a shallow society, thankfully there are more than one avenues where one can make his or her mark on society except being solely on looks, evidently you don't seem to grasp that part.
Nothing we do in life takes into account *only* our looks (except vary rare examples). But in this shallow society, look can benefit (or hurt) many of the things we do (career, romantic life, etc.).
Even if it was for aesthetic reasons, how does admitting that you conform to the norms of beauty helps? That they massage your sorry ego that you're the only person willing to say so and yet can act like a total schoolboy bully saying that someone is unattractive back then as opposed to now.
I lost you there.
Thankfully, for most people they don't need a validation from you to do their jaw surgery nor do they need you to tell them what good looking is.
Great, I thank for that too (otherwise my life would have been way too busy).
And looking up the literature on the history of beauty, as you suggested you are on the dean's list every now and then I would be inclined to think you're somehow well read. The perception of beauty changes according to historical periods so there's no clear absolute value on it should be.
I'm living at the present, not that past. I wish I lived in a period/place where underbite was considered a feature of beauty by most.
The other thing being normal and being attractive are 2 different issues.
Being abnormal is unattractive.
Most people want to get on with life without being the subject of ridicule or the brunt of jokes from other people


True. But still not all people who do this surgery from aesthetic reasons were the subject of cruel jokes. Some of us live among people who are a bit more tolerant.
why is it not a good reason then as opposed to functional corrections?


Maybe I'm missing something, but who said it's not ?
Dating would clearly be the last thing on their minds.
Dating is usually always on the mind of adult healthy people who are not in a relationship.
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