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gracey82 wrote:haha VA5, yes, after so much of similiarities between our teeth you are talking about, I'm eager to see your before and after extractions pics!!
Well , same like yours, my teeth wasnt overlapping at all, or rotated and stuffs, has minor cross bite on my right side. Though they say extraction would caused the arch to become smaller, I beg to differ. It is only make sense the arch is smaller because u have 2 teeth less.
Even in this case Dr Rick has posted last time, I have noticed the arch become smaller.
What I'm trying to say is if you look at some people with wide smile, you can see the whole set of teeth lining up across the mouth when they smile. But I have noticed ppl who gone thru extraction and braces, when they small, there are black holes at the corner of the smile. Isnt that cauased by extraction?
Talking about it, I wonder if I would need expansion on my lower, since if you see the pics on my braces journey, the back molar and first molar are pushed inside. Dont know how they are going to be pushed outside and aligned itself since the back molar is not included in the braces process, if you know what I mean.
When i was looking some of the arch of a normal ppl, I notice my arch is slightly narrower. Cant really draw and illustrate, but a normal set of teeth will have a very nice U shape arch, whereas mine is narrower at the curve, little more to V shape than the U shape. Expansion helps? As oppose to the first orthon, my second orthon doesnt agree on expansion.
hm, i don't think it's caused by extraction. i think some orthos are very conscious of not letting the arch cave in too much. mine is like that, so i hope mine isn't too much smaller although i don't mind it being a little smaller. i just don't like how when i smiled before, i was WAY too toothy. you know how tiger woods smiles and he has (well not sure about now, lol.. might have lost some teeth recently) what appears to be too many teeth for his mouth? kind of like that. i like toothy smiles but mine flared out just enough for me to feel self conscious of it whenever i smiled. i always liked other people's smiles that were big but not like .. whoah, you've got a lot of big teeth in there. you know?
so, my ortho is being careful about my arch, but at the same time i can see that it is getting a little more rounded. that's what i really want.. an arch that is more rounded, and i want the teeth to tip inwards more than outwards, which might make tha arch appear a little smaller but it's okay with me b/c my mouth/teeth were so in-your-face before. if that makes any sense.
and like i said, i don't think it has to be extractions that cause that. if the ortho is careful about it, they can make sure to retract your teeth in the front (which really is mostly just tipping it inwards, they can't really move your jaw line, you know.. without surgery anyways) w/o the other teeth caving in.
just make sure your ortho is really aware of your fears and i'm sure it'll be fine!!!
i realize i need to take pics of my before pics (the ones my ortho gave me) and i will email those to you later.
You have put my thoughts into words! Hahaha like the tiger woods part, guess I'm like that too. I know what you mean big teeth but not toothy, I like scarlet johansson's, taylor swift and yes if you know Sophie Okonedo , I like that smile and teeth! Their teeth are big, noticeable but not protrusive. They do not have flat profile too. I tried counting their teeth to figure if they have braces or extractions lol.
Yes VA5, can you PM me the pics? Kinda hard to visualise without a pic
khrystal1968 wrote:It curves outward, yes. It is hard to explain...It is as if my nose and lips point outward. I have kind of an unusual nose in my opinion...I have what my family calls the "Roman nose". I really don't consider my lips protrusive, they are full. I guess the ortho didn't see it that way. They are getting a bit thinner tho.
that is your profile right now? IT LOOKS GREAT! I like the way your lips are and I think you have a better profile compared to the other pics. Why don´t you like the result?
wow i might be sound weird but i actually prefer khrystal1968's profile now.
Pre-braces you don't have a defined chin and now you do.
I think your profile really improve alot!
But then if you are still not happy, i hope you have found better solutions to get what you want (:
wulfgarian wrote:wow i might be sounding weird but i actually prefer khrystal1968's profile now.
Pre-braces you don't have a defined chin and now you do.
I think your profile really improve alot!
But then if you are still not happy, i hope you have found better solutions to get what you want (:
Just a quick note, I saw your pics. You have a full profile. I was in braces for a bit, loved my face before braces--and I got them to have my 2 front teeth pulled back. I was hesitant to extract teeth, but was convinced to do otherwise. I am now out of braces and the full lips I once had are gone. I have been to several orthodontist and it is very hard to reverse extraction cases after it is all said and done. I am not a doctor just talking from experience and my current situation and all the orthodontist I have visited after braces.
In some cases extractions are needed but I would be careful. The ortho doing the extractions MUST have your face in mind and not just the bite correction.
If I knew then what I know now I would have never extracted....it has made my chin appear weaker, my lip thinner and because it was all pulled back it appears that I have aged. Get a 2nd or 3rd opinion --go to a board certified orthodontist that specializes in not only the bite but the face....this is very important because if they do not have your face in mind and only your bite then the tradeoff may be (like my case) a perfect ortho bite that has compromised facial harmony. It's good to go to someone that is board certified because they have most likely handled a lot of cases. However, it does not mean that someone who is not board certified is not good...For your current ortho treating you could ...ask the doc for pics of cases they have handled with extractions....make sure the pics show the whole face and not just the teeth you want to see how the extractions have or have not impacted the entire face.
I wish you the best but hope you get additional opinions before extractions.
