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lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#856 Post by lordloz »

[quote="JackDaniels"]I went to see my dentist today and he said my treatment is pretty much done! My two front teeth are not 100% in line with each other but as good as it's going to get and it is a huge improvement. He did a bit more filing too and took impression so I'm back in two weeks for a bonded retainer and then more impressions, then back the next day to get my clear essix retainer. That will sit over the bonded. He said I should also wear the essix as much as possible to start with. As I had previously mentioned, he advised only the essix to start with, full time for 6 months but I wanted the added security of the bonded as well as the essix. Plus it won't cost me any more either.

Lilpickle - I didn't know you could take it apart to be honest!! I'm not sure you should either.[/quote]


Hi all, i've read a fair bit on here and interested in the various experiences. I haven't got anything done yet, just been researching.

My background is couldn't get on with the whisker and plate retainer when 14 years old or so, ended up with the appallingly bad dentist who had supplied the whisker butchering my mouth with fixed metal braces, for which he removed teeth to make room for straightened ones.
I never liked him but was young and argued and stood up for myself less then,
(I did argue though when i was late once for a appointment and him and his snotty nurse had a go at me, this was despite every time I went i always had to wait for 20 minutes to half an hour at least, sometimes for an hour even), I pointed this out to them and they weren't amused....suffice to say I disliked the guy but parents organised treatment, etc. so went with it.

Well every tightening was very painful and ached for days on end, the wires were cut off badly and scratched mouth constantly, my family eventually got fed up with him over other treatments and his attitude and we moved dentists, the new guy told me i would probably have them in until I was 18 or so....bad enough that being that age I was very interested in girls and thought this would preclude any romantic involvement but that discomfort and pain for all that time, or I could have them removed.

In hindsight i should have stuck with it but at the time the relief was wonderful. I believe he did report his conduct to the BDC but no idea if anything came of it. I was surprised then that I didn't go to a separate orthodontist and that he did it and don't believe he should have fitted them at all.

Anyway, I digress, I've wanted them straightened for ages but the cost was prohibitive and I found other things to spend my money on like fast motorcycles....
I hope to be in position to get it done in next couple of months as the IA seems to be a great option.
I went to one dentist who does IA, he offered a free consult and place was recommended by a friend.

All the free consult was in essence was a chat, he barely looked at my teeth and didn't even sit me in the chair so I'm not sure about him at moment even though he said I was suited to the treatment I wonder how he really knew or just wanted to sell treatments.
I'm also hoping to move 200 miles away in may/june so think with the frequent adjustment i should start from scratch there.

I think I will go IA but the main thing that worried me now is on here reading from others that I will have to wear another retainer afterwards. Now is this on a permanent basis or for just a few months afterwards or maybe for the time Invisalign would have taken to compensate for the speed of movement. I think i do grind a bit at night too so that's a concern.

Any information or advice gratefully received.

thanks

JackDaniels
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Re: Inman aligners

#857 Post by JackDaniels »

Thanks Smiletime, I will get some photos up soon. It's hard to say how much filing is normal because all teeth are different of course. The filing should help you teeth really start to move now though.

Tennessee - I've never heard of spring retainers, but I guess that does sound like IA. I'd really try to find a dentist who has a good bit of experience with the IA though.

Lordloz - As you have already had a bad experience with a dentist in the past, you should try to find someone you are very comfortable with now, and it sounds as though the one you saw about the IA was not that good either!

Probably a good idea to find someone in the town you are moving too. If you go to the Inman Aligner website there is a list of dentists who do it. Just go an see as many as you can for a consultation and go with the one you feel most comfortable with. During the consultation, my dentist took a good look at my teeth, checked the health of my gums and talked me through the options, and gave me a price. He totally didn't pressure me to make a decision there and then either and suggested I go have a think about it first. Remember to ask lots of questions during your consultations, you need someone who is going to listen and take time to talk you through things. You are paying a lot of money so need to try to find the best dentist for the job! Good luck with it!

LilPickle
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Re: Inman aligners

#858 Post by LilPickle »

I have to agree. I went to one dentist who did similar to what you describe - just have a quick chat and give me a price. My gut feeling said no so i tried a dentist a friend had recommended and he couldnt have been more different! He checked my teeth and gums, spend quite a lot of time taking photographs, showing me examples of all the treatments i could have and what results i might get. He also thoroughly talked me through the process and the end result so that there wouldnt be any surprises or anything not meeting expectations. He's great and i trust him completely.

I'm not massively keen on having to have a retainer or wire fitted at the end either but whatever straightening work you have done it will be the same story. Its not limited to the Inman. So either you live with your teeth how they are or you have them straightened and then wear the retainer occasionally or have the wire fitted to keep them straight. Only you can make that choice. Trust me though if you start on this process there will be no doubt in your mind that you will wear the retainer! It isnt easy and i'm not going through all this if it isnt going to be permanent!!

dreamer89
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Re: Inman aligners

#859 Post by dreamer89 »

congratulations JackDaniels that's great news :) you must be thrilled.

on the plus side with mine, it seems to be correcting them without having to restart! such a relief. Have a check up in a week to be sure but I took photos and sent them to my dentist as I didn't think I could see movement but he could.

retainer wise - I'm with lilpickle, there is no way I will not wear retainers after this due to expense and the effort of going through it all!

Lordloz- I would definitely find someone you are comfortable with as you are less likely to trust them/believe what they say if you're not comfortable. And I would do it when you move,changing before it's finished would be a hassle and you can't guarantee it will be over before you move.

tennessee - I would go with someone with experience as it seems to be a fairly complex job making sure it is fitting correctly/where the composite should go to hold it in place and push in the right direction etc. Also, my checkups so far have been once every 4 weeks (although I went for an emergency appointment at 6 weeks) but that's because my dentist works in London andis only in my area every 2weeks. It seems quite a few people on here go every 3 weeks so you need to take that into account if it's 2 hours away as that adds to the expense!

I didn't realise it came apart! It does stretch out further than I think it should occasionally but I can't find any literature saying you should...

Tennessee
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Re: Inman aligners

#860 Post by Tennessee »

I have about 6 more I'm going to call. None are listed as certified providers. Other than basic things like how many times they have used and if they have had success with the IA is there anything else I should be asking when I call?

It seems like those who have the IA are happy with their choice. I expect some discomfort but braces are uncomfortable too and the IA is quicker.

I'm 30 years old with a job that I have to interact with people a lot. It is nice to know I could take the IA out when needed.

Would love to see more pics! Very encouaging to see success with the IA

lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#861 Post by lordloz »

big thank you to Jackdaniels, lilpickle,dreamer89 ,that's really helpful, yes I did have a pretty bad time of it but at least you have confirmed what I thought and that it will have to wait and see whether i move or not before starting treatment, the upside being can take my time, will no longer be working in a job where i have to speak to groups all day and should have funds to pay cash.


I have a business degree, previously had my own business and am about to start running another in the move, and i am pretty good at judging people on trust and shall we say sniffing out sharp practice for example it's rare these days i get ripped off by any firm;

The studio is split on 2 floors with different clinics and even though i explained i was seeing about orthodontics the first floor seemed to have no clue and then dozily sent me upstairs to the right place - it wasn't obvious separate clinics were being operated there and not a good start and didn't appear that professional for a business wanted to get best part of £1500 off of me

- and I realise the consult was free to help generate business and didn't expect x-rays or anything in depth at all but to not even sit me in a chair and after a few minutes say it is the treatment for me and will be fine was dubious and as you have said it didn't feel right.


I am concerned at always having to wear a retainer after, I always thought once straightened that would be pretty much it so thanks for educating me a bit, mind you, need to obviously have a full consult this time and see first anyway, and nice to know that other's have had better consults.
Anyone have any recommendations in South West, Devon (North preferably) Not sure on rules on advertising clinics so I'm not sure if you can post any here but if not then i would welcome any recommends via PM if that's OK

I'll continue my research and weigh it all up.
cheers everyone

lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#862 Post by lordloz »

oh and P.S. I'm still not clear will I always have to wear a retainer of some sort? I'm happy to for say a year or two until it settles down but I wasn't expecting to always have to have one.
Is this the difference having it done in adulthood otherwise why do teens not have to keep wearing one for life?

dreamer89
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Re: Inman aligners

#863 Post by dreamer89 »

lordloz wrote:oh and P.S. I'm still not clear will I always have to wear a retainer of some sort? I'm happy to for say a year or two until it settles down but I wasn't expecting to always have to have one.
Is this the difference having it done in adulthood otherwise why do teens not have to keep wearing one for life?
when I had my braces, which like yourself I had quite late as a teen, I was told to wear a retainer every night for 6 months or so and that would be fine. I wore it for a year and my teeth have still moved. I went back tomy previous orthodontist when I was thinking of getting my teeth straightened this time round and they told me that the advice nowadays is to wear a retainer for as long as you don't want your teeth to move, i.e. pretty much forever. Having been through all this once before I fully intend to wear them for life,(ok will probably give up at some point!) even if it's once a week or once a month to make sure they have not moved at all (i.e the retainer still fits) and wear it for a few days if it does feel tight or anything. This has been quite a big purchase for me (which I feel guilty about as I'm not a vain person and mine weren't that bad) so I fully intend to do everything I can to keep straight teeth for as long as possible! I had wanted to get a wire on top and bottom jaw (I only have IA on bottom) but was told the way my teeth sit it's not practical. I was told that the bottom teeth are more likely tomove than the top (don't know if this was a specific comment to my teeth or not) and that a lot of people have movement when their wisdom teeth come through so make sure you wear retainers if this happens!

Hope that's helped and I haven't waffled too much!

lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#864 Post by lordloz »

[quote="dreamer89"][quote="lordloz"]oh and P.S. I'm still not clear will I always have to wear a retainer of some sort? I'm happy to for say a year or two until it settles down but I wasn't expecting to always have to have one.
Is this the difference having it done in adulthood otherwise why do teens not have to keep wearing one for life?[/quote]

when I had my braces, which like yourself I had quite late as a teen, I was told to wear a retainer every night for 6 months or so and that would be fine. I wore it for a year and my teeth have still moved. I went back tomy previous orthodontist when I was thinking of getting my teeth straightened this time round and they told me that the advice nowadays is to wear a retainer for as long as you don't want your teeth to move, i.e. pretty much forever. Having been through all this once before I fully intend to wear them for life,(ok will probably give up at some point!) even if it's once a week or once a month to make sure they have not moved at all (i.e the retainer still fits) and wear it for a few days if it does feel tight or anything. This has been quite a big purchase for me (which I feel guilty about as I'm not a vain person and mine weren't that bad) so I fully intend to do everything I can to keep straight teeth for as long as possible! I had wanted to get a wire on top and bottom jaw (I only have IA on bottom) but was told the way my teeth sit it's not practical. I was told that the bottom teeth are more likely tomove than the top (don't know if this was a specific comment to my teeth or not) and that a lot of people have movement when their wisdom teeth come through so make sure you wear retainers if this happens!
Hope that's helped and I haven't waffled too much![/quote]

No waffle at all I'm really grateful for this thank you,

I hadn't expected to need a retainer at all perhaps because I had to cut my original treatment short I didn't get that far so the notion didn't arise.
I'll have to really think about it even more than already doing to see but I really would love to finally have decent looking teeth. If it's only an occasional thing as you say I think I can live with that.
Once I've moved hopefully in May time I can look for a practice and when I've had a full consult will see what they recommend. Hopefully will only need an IA for top teeth, considering the cost I hope so. My lowers aren't as bad but may need adjusting later but nothing extracted there so may be more involved.

Oh I had 2 impacted wisdom teeth taken out - worst pain I've ever known, far worse than breaking my ankle and ligaments abroad,
I also am carrier of hypermobilty syndrome I've discovered over the past year,
basically, this means I pass down quite elastic skin and flexible(almost double jointed limbs/digits) and am resistant to pain killers and moreover that I'm resistant to anaesthetic, this now explains and becomes clear why my dentist when he used to do crown, root canal,fillings etc. couldn't understand why he had to keep pumping in more solution as I could still feel the drill for example and he swore I must have been numb by now....

lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#865 Post by lordloz »

[quote="dreamer89"][quote="lordloz"]oh and P.S. I'm still not clear will I always have to wear a retainer of some sort? I'm happy to for say a year or two until it settles down but I wasn't expecting to always have to have one.
Is this the difference having it done in adulthood otherwise why do teens not have to keep wearing one for life?[/quote]

This has been quite a big purchase for me (which I feel guilty about as I'm not a vain person and mine weren't that bad) so I fully intend to do everything I can to keep straight teeth for as long as possible! I had wanted to get a wire on top and bottom jaw (I only have IA on bottom) but was told the way my teeth sit it's not practical. I was told that the bottom teeth are more likely tomove than the top (don't know if this was a specific comment to my teeth or not) and that a lot of people have movement when their wisdom teeth come through so make sure you wear retainers if this happens!
Hope that's helped and I haven't waffled too much![/quote]

I'm no waxed,bronzed god by a long way and don't think I'm vain as such,but I do like to look as good as I can considering what genetics I got dealt with,
for example though it's a little thinner these days I still have my hair unlike a lot of my peers, I have some grey and have given up colouring it now and I am annoyed I have to wear it shorter, I enjoyed having dark wavy hair, it suited my colouring etc.
I have for a very long time wanted at least my teeth to look better, not sure I want the white hollywood treatment but they aren't as white as I'd like but don't really want to start that ball rolling, but if they were straighter I think I would smile more and be more confident about my looks a little, so it would be a big purchase for me too as I can think of motorbike stuff I'd buy with that money.

I'll keep researching suitable clinics and keep checking in on here to help decide to go for it.
cheers dreamer, much appreciated

dreamer89
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Re: Inman aligners

#866 Post by dreamer89 »

no problem lordloz.

I understand what you mean. If you think it would make you feel more confident then it's probably worth going for, or at least seriously considering. I have tried not to think about what the money I've spent could buy! easier to just pay it (albeit I'm paying it off monthly so have a long way to go and regular reminders!) and not depress yourself with your fun things you could buy instead.

The thing that pretty much made my decision for me (and I know it's awful as she may have just said it to make a sale) but when I went for my first consult at my old orthodontist (bear in mind my problem was one of my bottom teeth really sticking forward and I could see the others were starting to move so wanted to stop it happening even more) she said something along the lines of, when you first started talking I thought you were here for a fake tooth as it looks like you have one missing.that made me even mroe self conscious about it! everyone I've talked to about it (friend wise) have said they haven't even noticed but you never know when people are just being nice. I haven't told that many people about gettin a brace, just family, colleagues and a few close friends. I have only been wearing the inman 7 weeks and they are so much better. to be honest if my teeth were how they were at the moment I would never have had an issue with them,but obviously want them straighter as am paying so much for the treatment!
I'm like you and would quite like to have whiter teeth (avoiding the hollywood look as you say) but that's another kettle of fish, and will maybe think about that further down the line. Straight teeth is more important to me at the moment.

Tennessee
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Re: Inman aligners

#867 Post by Tennessee »

Called a dentist today that quoted the IA at $600 per arch. That is way lower than I expected but they did say most people aren't candidates so I'm thinking they only treat minor cases with them. Still going to find out more as this is 2.5 hours away and I can't just go in for a quick consult.

lordloz
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Re: Inman aligners

#868 Post by lordloz »

[quote="dreamer89"]no problem lordloz.

I understand what you mean. If you think it would make you feel more confident then it's probably worth going for, or at least seriously considering. I have tried not to think about what the money I've spent could buy! easier to just pay it (albeit I'm paying it off monthly so have a long way to go and regular reminders!) and not depress yourself with your fun things you could buy instead.

The thing that pretty much made my decision for me (and I know it's awful as she may have just said it to make a sale) but when I went for my first consult at my old orthodontist (bear in mind my problem was one of my bottom teeth really sticking forward and I could see the others were starting to move so wanted to stop it happening even more) she said something along the lines of, when you first started talking I thought you were here for a fake tooth as it looks like you have one missing.that made me even mroe self conscious about it! everyone I've talked to about it (friend wise) have said they haven't even noticed but you never know when people are just being nice. I haven't told that many people about gettin a brace, just family, colleagues and a few close friends. I have only been wearing the inman 7 weeks and they are so much better. to be honest if my teeth were how they were at the moment I would never have had an issue with them,but obviously want them straighter as am paying so much for the treatment!
I'm like you and would quite like to have whiter teeth (avoiding the hollywood look as you say) but that's another kettle of fish, and will maybe think about that further down the line. Straight teeth is more important to me at the moment.[/quote]

thanks dreamer89,
i'm very grateful and wish you luck with it all, be interesting to hear how you get on,like you also people just say they don't notice, etc, even my regular dentist says they aren't too bad,
but though it doesn't fill my waking hours i've always been conscious of it, so I will go for it. I should have a fair chunk of equity from sale of my house so I can probably afford to take £1500 or so and put into treatment even after paying my plastic and stuff which is my priority first of course.
Concerned about having to do the lowers which have no extractions or gaps to move into unlike my uppers and hope won't need thinning down at sides, i also have a crown there and previous root canal work to consider but can deal with that later and as you say, just a touch whiter not LA but fairly normal.
I also need to check my EDS/Hypermobility genes and symptoms with this too as it may mean my teeth move in the gums very easily which could be a factor to consider also.

good luck and best wishes

LilPickle
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Re: Inman aligners

#869 Post by LilPickle »

Lordlolz i was the same. They werent too bad, they didnt make me not ever want to smile. Everyone i spoke to at work hadnt even noticed. It just always bothered me slightly. I got to the point where either i did something about it, or i just needed to get over it. I went for the former!

Went back for my 2.5 week check up today. My dentist was really surprised and pleased with how much they've moved. My front two were quite overlapped to begin with and now they are straight. Rather embarrasingly i hadnt noticed at all! He got the pictures up to show me and they really have moved quite a lot! Not sure why i couldnt see it myself! Could not remember what they looked like before!

So i had more filing done. I hate it so much. Its so brutal! My gums got cut to shreds! Doesnt hurt though. I just hate the feeling. Back in 2.5 weeks and feeling very positive. Knowing they have moved already just makes it all so worth it.

alice1
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Re: Inman aligners

#870 Post by alice1 »

Hi everyone :)
I've been reading this topic for a while now, it's really nice to read other people's experiences about inman aligners. I have crowded teeth and my orthodontist recommended IA for them - in my case the treatment will take about 10 weeks. I've had braces when I was a child, but I didn't really wear them very often...and now I regret that. But I'm really excited since I found this great and fast treatment, after seeing some photos of the results with IA...I'm impressed and just looking forward to start the treatment! :D I have an appointment with my orthodontist tomorrow and my IA should be there waiting for me - last time I was there was about month ago and my othodontist said that it would take approximately 3 weeks to get them.
I read your experiences about the lisping, and that's basically the only thing that worries me. It will probably feel a bit awkward to speak in the beginning, but I'm sure I'll get used to the lisping. Having straight teeth is totally worth lisping for a while.
Also sorry if I made some mistakes with my english - I'm not a native speaker, though I understand very well.

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