Hello all,
I'm 33 I have embarked on the journey to correct the mistakes of youth and a negligent dentist. My teeth are generally in good except I am missing the front top four due to an accident at 11 and subsequent connected necessary extractions. For the past 15 years I've worn a removable plate with the four top front teeth on it.
In the years spent without full front teeth the 6 front lower teeth have over erupted and are now too tall for full length top teeth implants without being lowered again, so I had a lower brace fitted on Friday with the aim of pulling/pushing the 6 lower front 6 further down into the gum line.
I know braces are good at straightening teeth but how successful are they at pulling/pushing teeth back into the gum line? Does anyone know?
Thanks,
Matt
How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your gums?
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Re: How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your g
They're pretty successful, I'd say. I'm having my bottom teeth pushed back into my jaw too. The ortho moved a few brackets up higher on certain teeth once they started to straighten out. That bends the wire up which in turn pulls the tooth down as the wire straightens out. So it does happen! Takes ages, but it does happen.
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Suitably reassured. Thanks Luchababe.
Also, anyone got any excperience of fixed top appliances when the front 4 teeth are missing. Seems quite an obstacle to me? Thanks
Also, anyone got any excperience of fixed top appliances when the front 4 teeth are missing. Seems quite an obstacle to me? Thanks
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Re: How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your g
MATTWOOD
first of all, congratulations on your implants! That is a big step but I am sure for someone that young and having a LOT of productive life in front of them, this is the best decision.
Now, intruding the erupted teeth. I am not a dentist or anything, but I have read that it is technically hard. Actually, it seems to be one of the hardest orthodontic tasks. I think they can push it down a little, but there's always a limit on how deep they can go. Some reduction can also be achieved with tipping/tilting. Actually, TADs can be used to facilitate the forces necessary for intrusion in the most difficult cases. Every case is different, and if your ortho thinks that he/she can intrude your teeth enough, let's hope this is the case. Good luck!
first of all, congratulations on your implants! That is a big step but I am sure for someone that young and having a LOT of productive life in front of them, this is the best decision.
Now, intruding the erupted teeth. I am not a dentist or anything, but I have read that it is technically hard. Actually, it seems to be one of the hardest orthodontic tasks. I think they can push it down a little, but there's always a limit on how deep they can go. Some reduction can also be achieved with tipping/tilting. Actually, TADs can be used to facilitate the forces necessary for intrusion in the most difficult cases. Every case is different, and if your ortho thinks that he/she can intrude your teeth enough, let's hope this is the case. Good luck!
Had full mouth metal braces for 21 months. Debonded April 2013. Now wearing clear plastic retainers every other night.
I have no formal dental or orthodontic education. Hence, all opinions expressed by me on this forum are those of an "informed consumer" and by no means intended as an expert advice.
I have no formal dental or orthodontic education. Hence, all opinions expressed by me on this forum are those of an "informed consumer" and by no means intended as an expert advice.
Re: How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your g
Thanks but I've not got the implants yet. I've got a couple of years yet before the mouth is ready for them as in addition to impacting there lowers I need teeth moved up top.
I've had all four wisdom teeth out and and am currently wearing a springloaded plate to push my upper molars backwards, to create space for the future widening of the gap where front 4 teeth/implants are going to go. Quite how the Ortho plans to widen the top gap without front teeth to fix a top brace to is a little unknown even to him at the moment.
It is highly likely that I also need some bone augmentation done as in the 22 years spent without front teeth xrays show a loss of bone density.
So long way to yet, I'd like to get them off by 35 but I'm beginning to think this might be unachievable. We'll see...
I've had all four wisdom teeth out and and am currently wearing a springloaded plate to push my upper molars backwards, to create space for the future widening of the gap where front 4 teeth/implants are going to go. Quite how the Ortho plans to widen the top gap without front teeth to fix a top brace to is a little unknown even to him at the moment.
It is highly likely that I also need some bone augmentation done as in the 22 years spent without front teeth xrays show a loss of bone density.
So long way to yet, I'd like to get them off by 35 but I'm beginning to think this might be unachievable. We'll see...
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Re: How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your g
MATTWOOD
bone graft is not a problem, but it may happen that because you have spent such a long time without those teeth, you will need the bone graft taken from your own body, usually a hip/upper part of the leg. Let's hope this will not happen, but ask about it next time since you want to be ready for this involving procedure should it be needed.
As of the widening the gap, I think he will just push the teeth closest to the gap backwards/sideways and it will widen. Nonetheless, it might be prudent to ask your ortho about it now, to be sure you don't run into troubles later.
Again, my opinion would be that 2 years might be an optimistic estimate
What does your ortho tell you about it? I think it never hurts to plan for a little longer to not be disappointed later on...
bone graft is not a problem, but it may happen that because you have spent such a long time without those teeth, you will need the bone graft taken from your own body, usually a hip/upper part of the leg. Let's hope this will not happen, but ask about it next time since you want to be ready for this involving procedure should it be needed.
As of the widening the gap, I think he will just push the teeth closest to the gap backwards/sideways and it will widen. Nonetheless, it might be prudent to ask your ortho about it now, to be sure you don't run into troubles later.
Again, my opinion would be that 2 years might be an optimistic estimate

Had full mouth metal braces for 21 months. Debonded April 2013. Now wearing clear plastic retainers every other night.
I have no formal dental or orthodontic education. Hence, all opinions expressed by me on this forum are those of an "informed consumer" and by no means intended as an expert advice.
I have no formal dental or orthodontic education. Hence, all opinions expressed by me on this forum are those of an "informed consumer" and by no means intended as an expert advice.
Re: How successfully can braces drive teeth down into your g
I was on 18 month payment plan that started last January. It's been extended by 6 months, which leaves only a six month window at the end of the best case orthodontic treatment period for the implants.
It's not going to happen that fast. I am where I am and it's going to take as long as it takes.
I could have had some quick fix implants instead of starting the orthodintic treatment but the end result would have been a compromise and having made my mind up to get something permanent that just wasn't on the cards.
It's not going to happen that fast. I am where I am and it's going to take as long as it takes.
I could have had some quick fix implants instead of starting the orthodintic treatment but the end result would have been a compromise and having made my mind up to get something permanent that just wasn't on the cards.